Where do they get their reasonings for their beliefs and/or teachings?

by bite me 9 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • bite me
    bite me

    In the JW's teaching that there will not be endless punishment of the wicked, but that the unrighteous people will be annihilated and cease to exist.

    what bible verses to they use to support this teachings?

  • stillajwexelder
    stillajwexelder

    endless punishment of the wicked, 1 John 4 vs 8 God is Love

  • Gopher
    Gopher

    About unrighteous people ceasing to exist:

    They use Psalms 37:10

    And just a little while longer, and the wicked one will be no more;
    And you will certainly give attention to his place, and he will not be.

    And Ecclesiastes 9:5,6

    For the living are conscious that they will die; but as for the dead, they are conscious of nothing at all, neither do they anymore have wages, because the remembrance of them has been forgotten.Also, their love and their hate and their jealousy have already perished, and they have no portion anymore to time indefinite in anything that has to be done under the sun.

  • Mrs. Witness
    Mrs. Witness

    They pull it out of their a$$es and call it "bible-based" beliefs.

  • VoidEater
    VoidEater

    On the "positive" side of proof, Ecclesiastes saying the dead are conscious of nothing; on the "negative" side (e.g., there is no proof FOR it), they teach there are no scriptures that reference a metaphysical Hell.

  • drew sagan
    drew sagan

    An excellent topic on this subject started by Leolaia:

    http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/10/71230/1.ashx

  • drew sagan
    drew sagan

    I just wanted to add that the dynamics of their belief in annhilationism comes from a preconceived belief in the nature of who they believe the creator to be.

    Russell started with the proposition that it was impossible for an all loving God to eternally torment his creation. He then took this "intellectual impossibility" and used it as the lens by which he interpreted the Bible. If any passage of scripture contradicts the presupposition of an all loving God not being able to eternally punish people the passage is interpreted in a way that makes it possible. Spiritualizing passages becomes the most common technique (i.e. rich man and lazarus), but there are others.

  • OnTheWayOut
    OnTheWayOut
    Where do they get their reasonings for their beliefs and/or teachings?

    It's a big secret. I couldn't find it anywhere in the book, CRISIS OF CONSCIENCE,
    but the way the Governing Body decides doctrinal matters is similar to the following:

  • flipper
    flipper

    Watchtower society Chapter 3 , governing body verse 12 . Peace out, Mr. Flipper

  • WTWizard
    WTWizard

    Very simple. After their prophesies began to fail, they needed additional scriptures to calculate new dates. Those also fail, so they have to repeat. Eventually they gave up on that, using 1914 as the starting point, and putting whatever event comes closest to the present as the typical article. That allows Armageddon to always be very close.

    Then they have to come up with other reasonings so the members will not watch NBC and start leaving by the million when they expose the pedophiles. That starts with apostate literature. And then, when the apostates start using the Internet to get the message across, the Tower reacts by demonizing it. College is too enlightening, so they crack down on that. And, to make themselves look pious in light of the pedophile issue, they crack down on oral sex. About the only thing they are doing is reacting to events.

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