Christmas brings pain for some of us if not all

KW13

Mum rang to tell me a joke - she claimed she just 'thought' of me but it was transparent, she rang because its Christmas. Stupid me, i knew the punchline so i said it and the phone call ended pretty much after that, really really sad i almost cried I am here with family at my house and she is 2 seconds up the street pretending its a normal day. Gonna call her back and tell her i love her.

AlmostAtheist

Sorry :-(

>>Gonna call her back and tell her i love her.

Good idea. :-)

Dave

WTWizard

No one ever said that Christmas was totally without cost, nor that it never hurt anyone.

First, it does have its share of cost. People spend a lot of time decorating their houses (OK, so they didn't do it this year around here). Gifts cost money, and then there is the time and gas used to gather them. Food, and its preparation, costs time and money. People have to travel to get to relatives. It costs money to run the decorations (less so if you use LEDs or, as people seem to have done this year, just put electric candles in the windows and call that decorating the yard). There is the time to wrap gifts. Shipping costs more time and money.

And, for many, Christmas has mixed effects. Those without children and that are single, or that have their whole families in the witless cult or that are a mini-cult in of themselves, have to face Christmas alone. They do not have big meals or gift shopping (they can, however, put up the decorations and listen to Christmas carols). Some have had deaths in the family, and it is a time of grief. There are also those who have, for some reason, had a fire or burglary that has put a dent in the holidays (and smoking in bed is a good way to start many of those fires, followed by faulty fireplace and wood stove burning and candle mishaps, and electrical fires from faulty appliances and poor circuits). Others have been in an accident (I told you not to drink and drive), or they got sick and are laid up for the holidays. For those people, Christmas is not as enjoyable as it otherwise could have been.

The question is, is it worth the hassle and aggravation of spending time in the malls and rigging up lights, the money you are going to have to pay back in January, and the higher risk of fires, accidents, and food borne illnesses that come with it. For most, it is worth it. Some, however, feel left out and don't feel like going through the bother of putting up the lights and decorations. Others have had personal tragedy. These people should not be pressured into putting up things that are supposed to remind them of happy times. They might be in a better frame of mind next year. Some just choose not to go through with it, because the cost for them exceeds the benefits. If that's the case, they should be free not to do it.

But one thing is sure. For me, it was worth spending the summer gathering up ornaments, getting tinsel garland and lights when I could find them, and the time spent ordering and putting them up to slap Jehovah in the face. And, downloading more than a hundred Christmas carols on my computer. As I see it, the total cost in time and money in doing that is much less than the total time and money cost of going out in field circus, going to boasting sessions, and associating with some of those jerk je-cockroach-jizz-hovah's witlesses.

mouthy

Yes I agree .It is a painful time for many...But I am so happy to see that so many of you are celebrating & having fun.
As long as your fun doesnt mean it effects others ,like getting drunk & abusing others,or smoking around the kids, filling their little lungs with "smog"

Holding grudges against those who "took us up the garden path" which ever path they took us,religion, marriages that went bad, friendships that soured,lies that hurt us, Forgiveness is the best present we can give in my humble opinion --------O.K. I "aint: a GRANNY for nothing ---nagging is my best quality

Enjoy the holiday

worldtraveller

It's shameful how the Witnesses behave on this and a few other days. I thought it was important to love everyone around you 24/7. I know my Jw bud yesterday was trying to be friendly on the jobsite, but I knew it wasn't sincere. He has no joy in his heart. I cannot imagine just what they think when they deliberately avoid contact with family members today. It is grossly childish. I wonder what Jesus would say. ?

We had dinner at MIL's last night, and today at our home with some friends and family. We will also be visiting for a bit today.

For those upset at all the bs, make 2008 the year to make a difference. Only you can control you.

The only thing I am having difficulty with is just what to do with my JW friend. As most of you here have stated is that he is only a friend while he takes advantage of me. I am afraid this has to come to some conclusion. We say little to each other since I told him what I discovered about just what "worldly" means. I asked him if he thought that about me. He said that only God makes the final judgement.(avoiding the answer)

Did he lie to me? I hate to put an end to this, but we have nothing to talk about together. He is the classic drone. Ths is not how true friends are supposed to behave. Anyway.................................. .

To all those who can think for themselves, enjoy this day, and many more like this. (insert turkey icon here!!)

juni

greetings to you and Megan and little Noah!!

You are a good person Karl; don't let ANYONE tell you different. You have a PM.

Love, Juni

flipper

KW-13- Sorry you are going through some pain. Sounds like a very good proactive idea to call your mom and tell her you love her . To tell people in our lives we love them , is always a good thing to do . People take love for granted in this world . Peace out to you, Mr. Flipper