I know this is an unusual request, so please bear with me. A co-worker of my wife's has family that has just started studying with the JW's. I have a document prepared for just such an occasion that shows how much the New and Old Light "Flickers." Actually, it was compiled from someone else on here, but I have modified it for my own use. What I want to do, is have those of you that can, please put a WTBS source, edition, page number to the date/fact that is shown. I want a prospective JW or JW looking at this to be instantly blown away by seeing an actual WTBS source shown.
After I received your replies (you can PM me if you want as well) I will incorporate your sources into my finished docment. My finished document is meant to be a shocking eye opener of research and something to make a prospective study, or maybe a long-time JW think about. Anyone wanting my finished document can PM me. It would be alot to just post on here, and it has pictures.
So, please find below the dates/facts I need backed up with WTBS sources. I know this is short notice, but I also know what for a fine group of researchers we have on here in which to pull such fine "spiritual food at the proper time," from. Thank ALL in advance for this help.....
- Wing Commander
The end of the world:
1874 (borrowed by C.T. Russell from Second Adventist teachings)
1888
1914 - “The generation that saw these things will not pass away” – Slogan dropped from Awake! magazines in 1996.
1918 (could occur in 1920)
1925 (“Millions Now Living Will Never Die!”) – Guess what; they’re dead!
1932
1975 – Fred Franz declares at 1968 Baltimore assembly, “Stay Alive until ’75!”
New light - 2034? Noah had 120 years, maybe we will too. Special Pioneer now! 1914 + 120 years = 2034. See, anyone can make up apocalyptic dates!
Who is The 'Lord' as mentioned in Romans 10:12-16:
1903 - 'Lord' refers to Jesus.
1940 - 'Lord' refers to Jehovah.
1978 - 'Lord' refers to Jesus.
1980 - 'Lord' refers to Jehovah.
Will the people of Sodom and Gomorrah be eligible for resurrection:
1879 - Will be resurrected
Will not be resurrected
1965 - Will be resurrected
1967 - Will not be resurrected
1974 - Will be resurrected
1988 - Will not be resurrected
1988 - Will be resurrected
1989 - Will not be resurrected
Who are the ‘Higher Powers' mentioned at Romans 13:1:
1916 - 'Higher powers' refers to governments.
1943 - 'Higher powers' refers to Jehovah God & Jesus Christ.
1964 - 'Higher powers' refers to governments.
When will the separating of the 'sheep and goats' take place (Matt. 25:31-46):
1919 - will take place after the time of tribulation
1923 - is taking place now, before the tribulation.
1995 - will take place after the tribulation.
Blood, Blood serum and blood fractions:
1940 Blood transfusions are acceptable
1945 Blood transfusion are not acceptable
1956 Blood serums should be treated as blood and are banned
1958 Blood serums and fractions acceptable
1959 Storage of own blood unacceptable
1961 Blood fractions are not acceptable
1964 Blood fractions are acceptable
1974 Blood serums are personal choice
1975 Hemophilia treatments (Factor VII & IX) are not acceptable
1978 Hemophilia treatments (Factor VII & IX) are acceptable
1982 Albumin is acceptable
1983 Hemodilution is acceptable
1990 Hemodilution is not acceptable (Blood Brochure)
1995 Hemodilution is acceptable
Call to Blondie, Minimus, all other WT date fact finders........
by WingCommander 8 Replies latest jw friends
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WingCommander
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minimus
WC, I'm sorry I can't help you. Last year I gave just about every publication away except for a few. But if Blondie read this or you pm her, you might get your wish.
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AlphaOmega
The Resurrection of The Sodomites
The men of Sodom WILL be resurrected WT 7/1879 p8
The men of Sodom
WILL NOT be resurrected WT 6/1/1952 p338The men of Sodom
WILL be resurrected WT 8/1/1965 p479The men of Sodom
WILL NOT be resurrected WT 6/1/1988 p31The men of Sodom
WILL be resurrected Live Forever - early edition p179The men of Sodom
WILL NOT be resurrected Live Forever - later edition p179The men of Sodom
WILL be resurrected Insight Vol 2 p985The men of Sodom
WILL NOT be resurrected Revelation Book p273WingCommander, you have a PM
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AlphaOmega
Higher Powers - quotes from
"Index of Watchtower Errors" - D. Reed
In 1929 the light broke forth. The higher powers of Romans 13 are Jehovah God and Jesus Christ.
TRUTH. . . FREE. p. 312
"So, the 'higher powers' the apostle mentioned are Jehovah God and Christ Jesus. ..."
LET GOD BE. p. 248
". . . following World War I . . . There were many false doctrines and practices that had not yet been cleaned out of the organization. . . . With considerable misunderstanding they had accepted earthly political governments as the 'superior authorities' that God had ordained according to Romans 13:1____"
DIVINE PURPOSE, p. 91
"God permitted the political authorities of this world to continue as the 'higher powers' or the 'powers that be,' which are 'ordained of God.'"
BABYLON GREAT, p. 548
Romans 13:1 refers to governments.
WT 5/15/1980. p. 4
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The Lone Ranger
all yoou need is a good list of websites www.jwfiles.com etc.... maybe others can suggest other websites, but it won't make the JW think, it will only make you look like an 'apostate' or an agent of Satan and the JW will stop talking to you.
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johnny cip
http://freeminds.org/history/part1.htm is about the best place to start. hope you have lots of ink in your printer.. just about anything off the FREEMINDS PROPHECY PAGE WILL give you more than any one could read in months. all rotten spritual food the wts now tries to hide. john
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Merry Magdalene
You can find the text to Millions Now Living... >here<
This is a good resource for dates, I think-- watchtower.cc
Freeminds and jwfiles are great, as mentioned.
Also Alan F's research.
~Merry
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blondie
Lots of good answers
Search on google with the word "flipflops" and add "watchtower" and see what pops up. The ones so far are the ones I know except the "should a woman scream or not if being raped."
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/12/128750/1.ashx/My+Favorite+WT+Flip+Flops
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bobld
1925.."Millions now living will never die" Guess what you will not believe the twisted mind of a J.W.They say that the WBTS was right all along.Because today their are millions 6.7 that are alive.This was at the 4th time rev book study.So their are millions that are alive when the Big one comes and "we are alive." so they say. I could not believe their logic or reasoning.