So many here have been affected by sexual molestation I know.
I continue to be shocked by how widespread this horrible problem is.
I found out yesterday that one of my grandnieces was molested by
the cousin of her father. She is about 4.
I just feel my soul ripping inside upon hearing this.
He may as well have raped me the feeling is so intense.
I believe that rape and child molestation should be capital offenses.
Molesting, Incredibly Sad
by joelbear69 6 Replies latest jw friends
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joelbear69
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Gregor
Sad news, Joel. This just happened? Horrible.
I agree about capital punishment. It has been shown over and over again that 95% of child molesters cannot be rehabilitated. The younger the original victims the more ingrained it is in the molester. Since we know this and we know capital punishment will probably never be used, then they should receive life with no parole. Surgical castration could be an option.
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feenx
I remember seeing a news story about a man who was a sex offender and felt that he could never truly be rehabilitated and actually opted himself for surgical castration. I think the story came up because someone was trying to stop him from doing it, and he was actually fighting to get castrated. Not something you hear everyday.
I totally agree with capital punishment for perpetrators. Although I am biased, I still think it's the way to go. -
R.Crusoe
Whilst I completely understand the strength of your emotion, it is a flawed notion without doubt.
One must look at the gender issue clinically!
What is it that criminalises males but which liberates female suffering?
I am not at any point attempting to minimalise victims of errant behaviour but to raise the bar to the point of undrstanding why.
Two babies - one female - the other male - and it seems the odds are stacked that one is more likely to become a criminal and the other a victim. It is more likely that one has far more expected of them and the other to expect support and respect. I do not believe males are born more evil than females!! But your recommendations pressume that to be a fact!! I wonder if society pressures its own evils in many respects. And in the case of the said male, why would a male baby grow up in our society to hate themsleves so much? I rarely hear of similar female scenarios save in culture whichj penalise womens sexual exploits! It needs more careful analysis! I believe any abuser, if born to a presidential father, would be the toast of society! But ones born in strife and neglect and lacking love often are the ones hated and rejected and misaligned. Is it their own doing or is there a hidden agenda society doesn't recognise about itself?
I understand we may have physiological cases wher brain function is malformed, just as in some educationally challenged people, but the problem spirals into the mainstream. Why is this? Are men innately more genetically biased toward evil than women?
That is the line we seem to be looking at!
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tan
As a victim also, I'm so sorry that she has experienced this. My heart goes out to the little one and you. I must add that outside of that organization I am healing...it's a lot better than it used to be, however it is a daily healing.
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WTWizard
This is definitely a serious incident. Making it worse is that it probably was coercion that was used to get that child to cooperate. They usually do that--telling the child something that amounts to that they have to do it in order to survive the Tribulation, or something along those lines (often attaching the abuse to other counsel), and then threatening that, if they tell, they are going to get disfellowshipped and destroyed. That is initiatory coercion, and should definitely not be acceptable.
Anyone that abuses illusory authority to molest children, and then coerces them to shut up about it or face a terrible destruction, ought to be locked up and the key thrown away. These people are not merely breaking a law that fulfills a political agenda. They are breaking the prime law--initiating coercion to molest children. And, the organization that sets up structures to encourage this sxxx needs to permanently be put out of business. This is a value destroying organization. Perhaps a dose of ostracism for those who coerce people into joining or abuse children like this (any abuse, not just sexual) would be in order. If their volitional actions result in death of innocent people, then they need to be permanently banned from society at large. Maybe if those humanoids would be ostracized for being parasites in society, the organization would collapse and the problems cease.
If not, then the least ostracizing those humanoids would do is to prevent their cults from infecting others. That is the sort of scum that actually ruins society. Apostates merely present alternative viewpoints, which can give us insight on the real truth. But, scamming people into giving up their lives for some organization that destroys value, in the name of God, and protecting pedophiles, is not acceptable. And, definitely I will never ever put another penny in that Worldwide Pedophile Defense Fund box.
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dogisgod
I think the Supreme Court is considering making this a capitol offense.
As a victim of abuse, rape, and how the elders blamed me for it. Perhaps those who cover up these situations and or don't protect kids should be included in the situation....like "accesory to". When the tables are turned and they are put in a powerless position and at the mercy of preditors in prison then maybe they will LEARN empathy.
As to the WHY it happens I think there are bunches of reasons. First of all I'd like to address how we minimise the act by calling it "child molestation". It is "child rape/fucking" We also mimimise this "human/child trafficking" It's the same thing only it's "Child Fucking" for big bucks. If we can't call it for what it really is then we can't begin to find the roots of the problem.
Men have a shitload of testosterone. It is a very basic nature for them. My former Father-in-Law said it was kind of tough to be "led around life by your balls". He was a very intelligent, successful, orderly, man who was never faithful to his wife. Even when you visit those old guys in the resthome they are still masterbating. They may not be able to talk or feed themselves but it is a base action. Men screw men in prison but don't consider it "homosexuality". Whatever is available I guess.
There is also some basic wiring that is really crossed in the brain that seems to not to be "fixable" . I believe some people are worthy of death, like that guy who raped that little girl in Florida and then buried her alive under the trailer. The guy in CA who raped and killed Polly Kraus and killed her. I personally could shoot them in the head and not have a bad dream about it.
At the very least these people both male and female should NEVER be allowed the freedom/accesibility to children EVER again.
These are just the "monsters" that we know of. The "quiet monsters" are our leaders and rich classes who secretly partake in child rape and no one tells. Travelling to the Philippines or Indonesia, or Bosnia. Any war torn country that suffers poverty and PTSD nationally are ripe fruit for preditors. I actually had a European man tell me a few days ago at how when he was younger he and his friends would go to Romania to "bang" the impoverished women for almost no money at all. I was working and in uniform so I couldn't REALLY say what I thought but when he said "bang" I did burst out laughing at the absurdity of a 50 yr old man talking like that. I haven't heard "bang" since Jr high. Then I told him he was very silly and that these days what he did for entertainment is now called "human trafficking".
Did you know that on top of the rape camps set up in Bosnia/Europe/Africa the next wave of rapes came from "the Blue Helmits" aka the United Nations Peace Keepers....or is it Piece Keepers?
The whole patriarchial system is endemic in this situation. Sex with daughters and sons is througout the Bible. When a pilot I knew was sent to Saudi to train locals to fly the F27 his 10 yr old boy left their "compound". He dissappeared for several days. He was found in the desert wandering around in shock and had been "sodomized" by a group of men. When the father went to the police they told him...."that's what little boys are for". For God's sake (so to speak) Mary could have been as young as 12 when she "concieved". What is THAT all about????? Child brides are more common than not in the world. Priests and ministers of many faiths have been screwing kids for ever.
When we talk about sex with children it is a HUGE topic. All we seem to do is address single acts and not get to the bottom of things. In the US rap sees women as nothing but sperm depositories. Because the girls listen to this too they are "brainwashed" like the boys to see themselves that way.
Nuture, nature, environment, culture, patriarchial, brain disorder, religion. As long as women and children are looked at as less than men this is going to continue.
As long as the WT sees this as a "sin" and not a "crime" they will never get it right. Perhaps because it IS a male dominated religion this "sin" is excused. After all didn't God place that high drive to populate the earth and it was never reduced sooooo really it's God's fault. Not the perpetrators. "The Woman whom YOU gave me, SHE gave me the fruit".