Studies on the "Name of God" - PDF files

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  • Doug Mason
    Doug Mason

    The WTS pats itself on the back for revealing the Name of the True God. It claims that through superstition and by deliberate action, Jews and apostate Christianity have hidden the Name.

    The truth is, the name “Jehovah” that the WTS reveals is not God’s name but a confused and mistaken concoction. The WTS has inserted this mistaken name into its NT, using English characters.

    In Hebrew thought, a “name” is the very person, it is not a handle. Hence the change in a person’s name following a significant, life-changing experience.

    So to reveal God’s name is to reveal his character, to reveal the nature of his Being. This is what Jesus did.

    But through their actions, the WTS hides God’s true character (his Name). The WTS says it is quite ok to tell lies, to sacrifice children, to split families. These are not true revelations of God’s Name.

    The truth is that Jews and Christians conduct deep and thorough expositions of God’s Name that put the WTS’s poor efforts to shame. I have made available articles by some Jews and Christians at:

    http://www.filesend.net/download.php?f=9fbf3255fa4864c5c0c109f5dde90ae4

    http://www.filesend.net/download.php?f=0e9598fd8811dd593bb84875b62795bd

    http://www.filesend.net/download.php?f=e9f7502ca3a6b549e26fcafb2fec412c

    http://www.filesend.net/download.php?f=32aef6242d83150a60a10afe943c8b72

    Notice when these articles were written, the apparent religions of the authors, and their respect for God’s Word.

    Some of the articles make reference to other articles. It is possible I have copies of some of these, and I will make them available should I locate them. But if others have these referenced articles, please feel free to provide them.

    I do not pretend to understand everything provided by these authors, but there is sufficient to show that the WTS does not have a clue.

    Doug

  • buffalosrfree
    buffalosrfree

    doug, for some reason am unable to download filesend files is there some other way of getting them????

  • Doug Mason
    Doug Mason

    HI buffalosrfree,

    I have sent you a PM.

    Doug

  • JosephMalik
    JosephMalik

    The WTS pats itself on the back for revealing the Name of the True God. It claims that through superstition and by deliberate action, Jews and apostate Christianity have hidden the Name.

    Doug,

    They do and they think they can score points with God by using it. It is as if they think that such use protects and distinguishes them magically somehow. Jews on the other hand were so fearful of using it that they replaced the name with other words like God and Heaven. Even today such words are held in such regard that they spell G_d instead of God.

    You said: The truth is, the name "Jehovah" that the WTS reveals is not God’s name but a confused and mistaken concoction. The WTS has inserted this mistaken name into its NT, using English characters.

    This is denying what is staring you in the face. The WTS was not the first to try translating this name and we find it rendered in one form or another in other translations as well. It is a real translation of the Hebrew letters from which it was derived. There are other derivatives that could have been used and other languages in which this was done as well so this is not limited to Jehovah. Something like Yahweh also is used with this and other spellings that many prefer. Attempts to transliterate and all that used in arguments about it do not change this reality. At least it identified and replaced the Jewish substitutes like LORD and GOD used for it in times past that corrupted the text for many years and hid the real application and use of such words. But it is true that the WTS use in the NT cannot be supported as you state here. Its use by the WTS borders on idolatry

    You said: In Hebrew thought, a "name" is the very person, it is not a handle. Hence the change in a person’s name following a significant, life-changing experience.

    This is funny. You give our Supreme Being no credit for intelligence. Nowhere in His word does God say that pronunciation would be a problem for Him or that He would reject anyone doing so. You give our Father no credit for the many languages He caused to exist in which this name would be rendered. And you have no proof for what you are saying here. But this does present a problem. How then did YHWH the "name" of "this very person" somehow become the Father, Son and HolySpirit. Under what authority and where in scripture were such changes made?

    You said: So to reveal God’s name is to reveal his character, to reveal the nature of his Being. This is what Jesus did.

    And this is a good thing is it not? But how did Jesus do this? By saying Yahweh and lot of times instead of Lord or God? By revealing his plan to redeem us opening up the scriptures and teaching us and acting the way God would have acted in his place? Yes! But the nature of His Being was not revealed visually or literally by the human Jesus standing before them. We know this because Jesus said: By Joh 5:37 And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape. So that is not the way we should be thinking. We should be thinking another way, this way in fact where he said: Joh 14:7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him. Comprehension, by now understanding his prophecies and commandments, see with the minds eye how we should act, think and believe. He was one with the Father in such ways despite the fact that he as a human did not had the nature of such a Being.

    You said: I do not pretend to understand everything provided by these authors, but there is sufficient to show that the WTS does not have a clue.

    This is true just as Trinitarians do not have a clue. Why else would both of them falsely teach we will go to someplace else called heaven to live and work? False doctrine is not what we get from Jesus who promised humans redemption and immortality in a kingdom here on earth instead. Nowhere do we see Jesus doing what the WTS and Trinitarians are doing.

    Joseph

  • Doug Mason
    Doug Mason

    Joseph,

    You are entitled to have your own views and you have every right to express them. It is important that we live in accord with our own convictions.

    Tell me what you believe, but do not be denigrating in the process. Do not stoop to misrepresenting what I say and do not assume what I believe. We can leave such low tactics to the WTS and their cronies, if you don't mind.

    I believe there is one God, not many and I do not believe that Moses possessed the divine nature.

    Maybe you could tell me where the WTS gets the idea that "YHWH" is the Father's name.

    Regards,

    Doug

  • JosephMalik
    JosephMalik

    Doug,

    I do not believe in the Trinity and I believe that God is one Person, One Being as a result. The Trinity doctrine does not since by saying that there is one God and hiding behind this thought they add more persons to this one God and run all over the Bible trying to prove it. But the scriptures when translated into the Greek Septuagint used the English word BEING for God saying, I AM the BEING and not simply I AM as many think when it introduces Him as real and existing. Clearly one Being, one Person, one yet un-named God in this verse. This name YHWH would be revealed in the next sentence. Jews recognized such verses this way ever since then without correction from this Being. This Being in turn accepted them as His People. Since you point to Trinitarian material then a further explanation of why you are doing this should be expected. If I am to know exactly what you believe then naturally I expect you to explain yourself and not simply go on teaching such things and at the same time demand immunity from challenges. If your views are scripturally based then this should be no problem.

    You said: I believe there is one God, not many and I do not believe that Moses possessed the divine nature.

    The Divine nature (whatever that means?) is not required of someone like Moses identified as a God to someone else. Why do you keep saying this? Ex 7:1 NAS Then the LORD said to Moses, "See, I make you as God to Pharaoh, and your brother Aaron shall be your prophet. If you are free to say whatever you like than why should I be restricted? How are others to determine what to believe?

    You said: Maybe you could tell me where the WTS gets the idea that "YHWH" is the Father's name.

    I do not speak for them but the scriptures did that for all of us when the reality of His existence was first revealed to Moses. For example they say: Ex 3:15 And God said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, The LORD God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath sent me unto you: this is my name for ever, and this is my memorial unto all generations. The word in all capitals shown as LORD here is YHWH. And it was used thousands of times in the texts because it was His name and positive proof of His identity. Substitutes such as LORD and GOD came later but such letters are still behind this use of capitals in some versions and this continues to make this distinction in many but not all texts. The failure by many to maintain this name led rise to abuse as clear identification was then lost. The word God began to be used in ways not intended with new (Trinitarian and other like Mormon) meanings attached to it. It is these new meanings that I see you are supporting. You can correct me if you do not support such views and tell us now what you really think and why?

    Joseph

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