Where is the proof that they are God's chosen faith?! That just sounds pomp*ass*! Sorry so many questions, I'm seeing my inlaws this weekend and need a little reinforcements! Every little bit helps!
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Where is the proof?
by 4mylove 5 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
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Abandoned
There isn't any proof. They claim they are God's representatives and since God hasn't seen fit to clear the matter up, they are still going about their business, mucking up other people's lives.
However, there's a long, storied history of those who claim to be a representative of God. I think one of the most notable, fairly recent examples would be Jim Jones.
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freedomfighter
In the end you have to take their word for it. They will use a bunch of scriptures "proving" prophesys that have come true.
They are fulfilling Mat 24:14.
They are also fulfilling Mat 24:11,24.
Look into their History from beginning until now. You will see a trend. The "Truth" changes and gets updated regularly.
FF
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The Last Nephilim
This is a discussion I've had on and off with a co-worker who is in my cong. He used the reasoning that "God used an organization in the 1st century, didn't he? Likewise, he's using an organization today..." I thought about his statement that night, and the next day I told him that the bible does give evidence that the 1st century Christians were indeed organized, but they were NOT an organization! There is a difference! Furthermore, unless I'm forgetting or overlooking something scriptural, the commission to "make disciples of peoples of all the nations..." was given to the "anointed class" (disciples), and NOT the "other sheep". This coincides with the WT teaching that the FDS (esp. the GB) gives the "food at the proper time" to the domestics (those of the anointed who are NOT on the GB), and that by doing so God will appoint him over ALL his "belongings" (the other sheep with the earthly hope). My mind might be slipping, but I know of nowhere in the bible that the "other sheep" are to do any public preaching and teaching or spreading of the good news to anyone! That command was given ONLY to the anointed class (Please direct me to scripture if I'm wrong on this).
Now, if the WTS is wrong and the FDS referred to in Mat 24 actually means ANYONE who "slaves" for God, then the command to preach would apply to ALL Christians. If that is the case, then the WTS's claim that it ALONE is the FDS that is mentioned in Mat 24 is false, else they're not supposed to require the "other sheep" to out in field service!
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freedomfighter
The Last Nephilim,
Good point. I never thought of Mat 24:14 from that point of view!
Peace
FF
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kurtbethel
This is something I have not figured out. My study JW tells me how he has come to trust the FDS and I should too. He cites Matthew 24. I point out that it is Jesus asking who is that faithful slave, but that does not demonstrate the the WT is who he is talking about, and I would like to see some evidence that it is. He has a Watchtower article that insists that it is the FDS, cite Micah and other Bible passages. We look them up. They all seem not relevent, or inconclusive about the WT being identified in them.
The article mentions Jesus inspecting and appointing the FDS in 1918. I ask then if Jesus did that he must have been okay with the cross and crown with UN type laurels, Christmas celebration, and all the other things that were acceptable then in WT life. Overall, the case for the WT being the FDS seems to be circular reasoning. No wonder it tales nearly 5000 hours to get these stories to make sense and get baptized!
One thing, when he came on Christmas day, the subject of the FDS came up and we turned to Matthew. I read a little further down and mentioned the evil slave. I said that if an organization laid heavy burdens on people, had people in it who raped children and then covered for it, and had close associations with worldly governments, then it would be the evil slave. Right? He agreed. I said I would not want any part of that kind of organization.
I enjoy my weekly Bible studies, and want him to come back as long as he likes.