Like many ex dubs my education stopped after H.S. In today's job market that can pose certain challenges. Though I have plenty of industry experience to show, the research I've done shows regardless of what it is, employers look to what education history is listed. Do you think it would be advantageous to have a remark on a resume simply stating x amount of years of structured public speaking courses through WTBS (listing it as such)? I know that listing anything religious related on a resume isn't the best, however if it provided training for something that can be applied to a secular position, is it helpful or harmful?
Need Your Opinions: Public speaking training on resume?
by feenx 9 Replies latest jw friends
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DanTheMan
To the HR person who looks over your resume, it would probably seem a little bit odd. You'd probably do better to leave it off, and perhaps you could mention during your interview that you've spoken in front of church groups, but again that could be risky.
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shamus100
I'd never ever put that on my resume. Never. But that's just me. I'd probably never hire someone who had that on they're resume either, but there's my biased self coming through.
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heyfea
If in this job you're searching for you need to give presentations, I'd say, by all means, write it down.
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Uzzah
Call it TMS Public Speaking - A group of people would get together and take turns giving presentations and would be given suggestions on improvbement, such as on illustrations, effective introductions. If questioned call it something similiar to "toastmasters."
There is no need to mention anythig about it being church based or religious in nature.
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feenx
I agree that something religious affiliated would be strange....however I think Uzzah has a good approach to it. Honestly the training that I took in had nothing to do with anything "religious" as far as I'm concerned. I never put that experience to use to get bible studies or what have you. I was very good in the school, and I sucked door to door ;)
The positions I will be applying for will require strong relations with vendors and managing a production team...both of which have opporutunity to put public speaking skills to good use.
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daniel-p
Even if the "training" you recieved can be distanced from your religion, you're still putting your interviewers in an awkward position. Remember, they can't discriminate based on religion, meaning that they can't ask any questions about it, by law. I would only put things on my resume that can be discussed freely. You don't want them to associate awkwardness or "weirdness" with you. As an interviewer occasionally myself, much of my decision is based on the "feeling" I get about a person. Do I want that feeling around me at my work place? Putting anything on your resume that can't be talked about thoroughly is like tossing in a big monkey wrench and asking them to process it positively.
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daniel-p
As an afterthought, let your public speaking training speak for itself. honestly, it's something that SHOULD speak for itself anyway. Telling someone you are a good public speaker and not SHOWING it is pretty lame. So either you feel confident inyour speaking abilities and it will show in your interview, or it won't and in that case you should leave it off the resume. Hope that helps.
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feenx
Daniel: that is a fantastic way to look at it. i am definitely confident those skills will show themselves. i appreciate your feedback :)
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NewYork44M
If you put it on the resume. Plan a response when the interviewer asks for additional detals. If you can present a positive story without using the dub word, it should be fine.