Converstation with the doctor: not medical

by orangefatcat 7 Replies latest watchtower medical

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  orangefatcat

  This very afternoon I went to see my doctor and after the medical discussion was over, he asked me if anyone in the family has contacted me or is speaking to me. In fact for the past nine years he has asked me the same question and I telll him the same answer NO. He brought this conversation up with me. It looks as if Jehovah's witnesses in Canada and the USA are not experiencing increase in their organiztion. I said he was quite right.

  He is very well informed when it comes to witnesses. A huge percentage of JW's are his patients. So I guess with the unhappy witnesses they must tell him about the decreases in the organizaiton. Several times he has told me that there are many JW's who are jealous of me and others feel that I was courageous to leave the witnesses. He has said so many of them are extremely unhappy as witness and would give up anything to leave but they fear the lose of family and friends so they stick it out. So many of them know that it is not the truth.

  It makes me laugh at times when we discuss these issues. He has always asserted that I have a lot of courage and inner strength. Even with the passing of Marco he says he knows I will get through the grieving fairly quick. I am not sure of that, but I am trying.

  I wish that those witnesses who say they want to leave would just bite the bullet and get out. I know they are scared but so was I and I got through it and I am sure that some of the other witnesses can get to that stage. But how and when I don't know.

  He knows most witnesses are very unhappy. Thats a major news flash. I snicker when he says thing like that.

  Not only is he a good doctor but a great supporter for those who leave the witnesses.

  Just thought i would share my story with you .

  Orangefatcat
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  uwishufish

  Good Story

  I 've ask my doc about jws but he keeps things close to the chest.
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  misguided

  I work for doctors. One of them said to me the other day after seeing one of our very stressed out, burnt out to the point of craziness, hardcore JW patients, "thank god you got out of that crazy religion." I couldn't agree more.

  Rose
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  darkuncle29

  That's cool that you can talk that way with your Dr. about JWs and he's able to relate somewhat.

  To address why they stay, just from what your Dr. said, I think one could infer that they stay because they feel they are alone. Many who have blazed the trail away are very brave souls, and I admire them. ( I am not one of the brave ones.) Back to those stuck; if they became aware of each other, I think that would change many things. Just like survivors of a natural disater crawling out of the rubble, these stuck ones need to know about each other and support one another.

  So, how do we as seasoned Apostates help these people? Its been debated here before, and I think that there is no one way to approach the problem. I do wish there was something that we could do or figure out that could reach these desperate souls seeking excape. First hurdle would be just finding them and knowing who they are.

  OFC, I hope the rest of your Dr visit went well.
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  Maddie

  Orangefatcat - Its nice that you can talk about JW's with your doctor as he sounds quite informed. I have spoken with my doctor about my situation with family and the shunning practice and he knows about it too. The JW's don't support each other because they are fearful of being outed to the elders. Thats where the mind control plays a big part and why it works unfortunately. I think knowledge is the key to the downfall of the WT hold over its members and for more and more people having the courage to leave.

  Maddie
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  Hope4Others

  Orangecat

  Its quite amazing he is so candid with you. Telling you what others jw's talk about is interesting. He must be a Dr. that most are comfortable with so that they feel they

  can open up with their true feelings. He must just shake his concerning j-dubs.

  Hope4Others
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  Scully

  Our family doctor has known us for almost 20 years, which means he was our doctor when we were JWs, during the time of our "crisis" with the JWs, and has continued to be our doctor since we left the JWs. A lot of his patients are JWs we used to know too. He keeps telling me that certain ones ask if he knows how we're doing, and he always tells them that we're very happy and doing well. He said they get this perturbed expression on their face - he seems to think that they can't figure out why we're happy and doing so well. I enlightened him on the JW belief that leaving the JWs, as far as other JWs are concerned, turns you into the poster child for every horrible thing that can possibly go wrong with life. I told him that misconception was what kept me from leaving sooner, and it likely keeps others in even though they are miserable. So his plan is to tell all the JWs who ask him about us that our life keeps getting better and better - maybe it will get some others to think that if we can be happy without the JWs, then they can be too.
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  shamus100

  Oh Scully,

  You're miserable and just don't know it. You were much happier scrubbing floors for a living. Having a meaningful career sucks.

  It takes balls to leave JW's, and to those who don't, all the convincing in the world cannot truly help. If they're not ready, they're not ready. To those that are stuck, they need to grow balls to take the plunge out. They're so desperate they ask doctors eh? Doesn't suprise me.

  I'd like to know the percentage that are on AD's compared to other people.