The Gun Story You Did Not See Last Week.Part II

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    150+ down, 50 to go: Charges on the way in Joe Gun theft By Kelly Dame 02/21/2008 Email to a friend Post a Comment Printer-friendly
    Daily News/RYAN WOOD
    Owner of Joe Gun Inc. Dale Furst, left, and his brother, Joe Furst, right, talk with Supervisory Special Agent George M. Krappmann from the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives after a press conference at the Midland Law Enforcement Center Wednesday. Officials announced the recovery of 154 weapons and arrests of seven people in connection with the robbery at Joe Gun earlier this month.

    Dale Furst, owner of Joe Gun Inc., was nothing but smiles as he checked out the long guns leaned against a wall in the basement of the Midland Law Enforcement Center on Wednesday.

    "I am happy," Furst said, explaining it's not all because so many of the stolen guns that he never thought he'd see again have been recovered. It's also because, to his knowledge, no one has been hurt with one of them.

    There were muzzle loaders, shot guns and rifles, some of them high dollar items. "There's every caliber you can think of," he said.

    More than 150 guns, ammunition and other items — including a Daily News article about the investigation — were recovered when Midland County Sheriff's deputies, the Special Weapons and Tactics Team and the ATF served three warrants Tuesday night and Wednesday morning. The majority of the guns were found at a Greendale Township home, and arrests were made in Jerome, Mount Haley and Lee townships.

    The names of the three men who were arrested in Midland County have not been released, but two of them are 22 years old, and the remaining one is 20. Midland County Prosecutor Mike Carpenter said he is reviewing reports and videotapes, as well as speaking with Saginaw County Prosecutor Michael Thomas, before issuing any charges.

    The evidence was presented at a press conference on developments in the case of a break-in and the theft of more than 200 guns, a total value of $92,000. The break-in was on the night of Feb. 5 and into the morning of Feb. 6 at the store, 152 E. Saginaw Road in Sanford. Furst said he believes thieves cut the wires and left, returning later in the night to clean out the store. They took nearly his entire stock of firearms, leaving only six handguns, and ammunition, after prying open the steel door.

    "They knew what they were doing," he said, adding his belief that they most likely came into the shop pretending to be customers before they broke in.

    Furst said he was called on Tuesday morning by officials after they made two arrests and recovered four of the stolen guns in Saginaw County.

    "We thought yesterday things were going pretty good," Sheriff Jerry Nielsen said on Wednesday about the progress in Saginaw County. After those developments were announced and officials asked for the public's help in finding another suspect, "the tips started flowing in" to the sheriff's offices, the ATF and Crime Stoppers.

    "This morning, the puzzle just started coming together," Nielsen said Wednesday.

    Furst got a call at 11 a.m. from deputies telling him about the bust. "So when we walked in, my brother and I, we couldn't believe it," he said.

    Saginaw County Sheriff Charles Brown said the main suspect, 33-year-old Michael Anthony-James Louchart of Saginaw County, was picked up after a tip led officials to a home on Columbine Road in the St. Charles area.

    Officials are sure the seven people in custody — including one woman — are the main players in the case. "I really don't know the relationship of everybody at this point," Nielsen said.

    So far, Geri Lynn McClure, 22, Chesaning and another unnamed male suspect have been arraigned on charges of conducting a criminal enterprise, receiving and concealing stolen property, possession of burglar tools, conspiracy, possession of firearms by felons and three counts of felony firearms. Saginaw County officials also are charging Louchart and another unnamed man in connection to the case.

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    Louchart was released from prison in 2003. Officials said his criminal past includes breaking and entering with the intent to steal, receiving and concealing stolen property, safe breaking and gun crimes.

    The next order of business for law enforcement is to find the remaining 50 or so weapons.

    To recover them, officials have made a one-time offer to anyone who might have purchased one of the guns.

    "Return them to us and we will not ask any questions," Nielsen said, adding prosecutors have authorized the deal. "There will be a time when we don't forgive," Brown added.

    Prices for the guns on the street ranged from $500 for one handgun sold in Midland County, to a caller who reported he'd lent a suspect $50 and held onto a gun as collateral, officials said. Furst said the guns that were recovered ranged in price from $150 to $2,000.

    "Until every gun is back, our job isn't done," said ATF Supervisory Special Agent George Krappmann.

    Once the guns are returned, it's up to prosecutors what will happen to the weapons. They usually are returned to the dealers, Krappmann said. The suspects also could face state or federal charges, or a combination of both.

    Krappmann said the gun theft was one of the biggest in the state in recent years.

    "In Michigan, this is one of the bigger thefts we've had," he said.

    "Typically, stolen firearms end up in the wrong hands and someone's gonna get hurt," Nielsen said, adding he's not slept well since the break-in. He and others were awake all night Tuesday, working with prosecutors and judges to get search warrants.

    Furst said many of the weapons — pointing out the ones with wooden stocks — have been damaged. He said some nice weapons were used to break the glass in display cases, while others have scratches and dings.

    This is the second time the store has been broken into, but the only time since Furst has been the owner.

    "I hope it never happens again."

    To make sure of it, he's already taken extra security measures.

    A list of the stolen guns is available at www.atf.treas.gov/field/detroit/press/021308_openFFLletter.htm. Krappmann said the list would be updated as soon as possible.

    Photos taken by Daily News photographers are available as reprints.

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  • 5go
    5go

    As Pro Gun As I have been in the past I am starting to see the Anti Gun Lobby argument.

    You never hear about all the successful landings day in and day out but I don't hear anyone say that just anyone should be able to own and fly a plane.

  • hillbilly
    hillbilly

    I see this a positive story. Little old Podunk, Michigan SO can round up 7 suspects and most of the stolen guns in just a few days. The other 50 still out ... some will show up..some won't. The non-recovered weapons will end up in Flint, Detroit or elsewere ... 50 guns a day are stolen in just about any state in the Union. This is not really a gun story.. it's a story about a B&E that took guns... if it was a jewlery store it would hardly get mention.

    Did you notice the one guy is an ex-con?

    Question... If the little old Midland county SO can solve this break in... dont ya figure NYC or Chicago or LA could manage their guns too?

    Side note... I used to live in this county and know Dale... last (first break in) they caught the kids who did it, too...very minimal sentences for a first offence. The stores either side of him have been hit also.

    ~Hill

  • TD
    TD
    You never hear about all the successful landings day in and day out but I don't hear anyone say that just anyone should be able to own and fly a plane.

    I wouldn't have any problem with that. After all you have to pass a background check, and both written and practical proficiency exams to obtain a CCW.

    But that's not the anti-gun argument....

  • 5go
    5go
    But that's not the anti-gun argument....

    Exactly it's a compromise between both arguments. A lot of the Pro-Gun people think any law limiting gun ownership and requiring registration of firearms are wrong and so how work against freedom I now disagree. If I have to be in fear of some nuts having guns an not knowing how to use, or when to use them. Then I can't really go out and exercise much of my freedoms can I now.

  • Double Edge
    Double Edge

    Here's another story that only gets local "play":

    Brighton neighbor runs to women's aid, shoots and kills attacker

    By Sherri Drake (Contact)
    Originally published 08:46 p.m., February 19, 2008
    Updated 08:46 p.m., February 19, 2008

    A Brighton man shot and killed a 44-year-old registered sex offender who attacked two women in their home early this morning, officials said. According to Dist. Atty. Gen. Mike Dunavant, David Fleming charged into the home of two women at about 3 a.m. Fleming bound the women but one escaped and ran to a nearby home. Dunavant said Fleming, who lived in Munford, intended to rape the women.

    The woman who escaped went to the nearby home of Keith Ingram for help, Dunavant said. Ingram, carrying a .40-caliber handgun, ran to the house and found Fleming attacking the other woman, officials said. When Fleming tried to attack Ingram, Dunavant said Ingram shot Fleming once. Tipton County Sheriff’s deputies and Brighton Police officers found Fleming dead on the front porch of the home.

    Fleming had been convicted of attempted rape in Tipton County. He’s listed on the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation’s sex-offender registry. Dunavant said Ingram has no criminal record and has a permit to carry the handgun.

    The women who were attacked were treated at Baptist Memorial Hospital-Tipton. TBI officials are assisting with the case. The Shelby County Medical Examiner will conduct an autopsy. Investigators took statements from several witnesses today. The shooting is still under investigation.

  • dogisgod
    dogisgod

    Believe me when I say I know a lot of certifiable (as in crazy) pilots who fly quite well.

  • hillbilly
    hillbilly
    You never hear about all the successful landings day in and day out but I don't hear anyone say that just anyone should be able to own and fly a plane.

    Hmmm. Me, Private Pilot, SE Land Rated....about 400 hours tt and I own at least 30 firearms.

    Flying an airplane is not that hard to do. If you can drive a car, watch the weather and read a map and compass and tell time you could be a pilot. The hard part is learning the Fed FAA regs they are going to test you on for licence.

    Flying is perceived to be 'hard' and a skill for the elite. Driving a tractor trailer is perceived to be blue collar and coarse. I learned flying much easier than driving a tractor trailer.. and the Medical for holding a CDL drivers licences is about the same as the Basic Med Cert a private pilot has to have.

    ~Hill

  • 5go
    5go
    Believe me when I say I know a lot of certifiable (as in crazy) pilots who fly quite well.

    And if they do something crazy they get their licenses yanked. We can argue this till we are all nauseated. If you don't like government control go to place like Afghanistan (Were there is so little government control the people can kill you for not being of the correct faith) that you may purchase any Firearm you may have a fancy for and then use it to your hearts content. As long as you don't hit the coalition forces (the US and it's Allies) you are OK.

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