LOCAL NEEDS TALK.------- the good old "party" local needs talk.

by ?me? 9 Replies latest jw friends

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  ?me?

  you know you have had it, probably every 2 or 3 years. but we had it a last month or so. the good old local needs talk on PARTIES! you know, how to have them (small, upbuilding, and supervised) who to invite (a small group of "witnesses in good standing" ) and what invites to accept(do you know the host, do you know what status of guest will be there, what is the "feel" of the party)

  a fairly young, quiet brother handled the local needs talk, and directed it to "teens, and younger witness" but it could apply to ANY gathering. it was totally ridiculous. he went into detail that you should probably inquire to the elders if they know the host of the party if it is not a brother from your hall,and if they know the person, they could basically tell you if it is cool for you to go. He actually mentioned about "what was there status in the hall ( pioneer, ms, etc)" and you should consider that when you accept an invite. also that it should be properly supervised. can you imagine being 20-something and having a supervisor of the party? hey used the whole "director of the feast" scriptures to justify it.

  also mentioned "what is the intent of the party"? like is there alot of liquor there to encourage drinking?. our hall is pretty quiet, so usually our Local Needs talks are pretty lame and make a big deal out of little matters. it was just wierd for him to suggest such detailed investigation into going to a party, if i go to a party and there is too many people, or people i don't like, or i don't agree with what is going on,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,I LEAVE, no big deal.

  basically scared any "good little witness" from going to or throwing any sort of party.

  i wonder if the "pioneer dinners"(and elder dinner, because they "throw " it) are included in this warning?

  time to go surfing

  me
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  Pioneer Spit...oh, i mean Spirit

  No kidding. We'd wonder, Who had a party and we weren't invited??? They always tell the most outrageous worst case scenarios--girl got pregnant AT A PARTY, a brother was murdered AT A PARTY, the police were called to a JW's party.
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  hillbilly

  Nag nag nag...

  I aways wished those elders would back up that naggin'

  If they are gonna bitch...back it up. Pictures of party-goers dramatically undraped on easels during the service meeting. Let's point the finger and make it stick.

  ~Hill
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  Poztate

  They always tell the most outrageous worst case scenarios--girl got pregnant AT A PARTY, a brother was murdered AT A PARTY, the police were called to a JW's party.

  Sombody's head was cut off... OMG...Stop all the partys.

  We used to have a lot of good times in the late 60's early 1970's going to parties and enjoying ourselves. I remember Rollerskating and Hockey with friends and then going back to crack a few beers and listen to music.

  It all came to a grinding halt. The Elders were told to take control over every part of your life and they have. No more fun for the "True Dubs"
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  Tired of the Hypocrisy

  Back in the early 1980s the circuit overlord told the Highland cong that there would be NO MORE gatherings.....PERIOD. No no no no no no more gatherings....That is how this little tin god told us. Oh what an asshole he is.
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  flipper

  ME ?- Good thread ! No wonder before I left the witnesses in 2003 - all the get togethers had virtually stopped ! The GB and elders scare the bejesus out of anyone wanting to have a party so most people say , " Why bother "? The statement the elder made in his talk, so typical, " What was their status in the hall , pioneer, MS " ? Everything is about appearance . Who you hang with , who you know . How will going to a brother or sisters house affect my spirituality !!! Oh my gawd ! How paranoid I've become ! Sorry. Just having a flashback ! LOL! And to top off the talk naturally the elder asks the nosy Gestapo inspired question - " What is the intent of the party " ? A simple answer would suffice - like TO HAVE FUN !!! I swear to god - I'm so glad I got out when I did , I couldn't handle their controlling tactics anymore ! Peace out, Mr. Flipper
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  VoidEater

  ...inquire to the elders if they know the host of the party if it is not a brother from your hall,and if they know the person...

  Egads - sounds like some kind of kreepy kult!
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  Save My Soul

  Back in the early 1980s the circuit overlord told the Highland cong that there would be NO MORE gatherings.....

  Is this cong. in Palmdale??

  The CO stopped our congregation picnics because he discouraged large gatherings in the late 80's.
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  WTWizard

  Why would they need to know the purpose of the party? I guess the acceptable purposes would be to go out in field circus, have discussions of the Bible using only Watchtower littera-trash, or to assist in building or maintaining a Kingdumb Hell or A$$embly Hell. Unless your "party" fits one of these items, it will be denied.

  I wonder what happens if we have an unauthorized party right there at the Kingdumb Hell. There would be plenty of beer and munchies. There would also be decorum that would be appropriate for the theme (and the best of those is in early December). And, if Brother Hounder shows up to shut it down, that's when the weed comes out. And there would be loud music ("bad" music at that) to boot, right on the Kingdumb Hell PA system.
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  lawrence

  Do these rules apply to apostate festivals? Hell no! And why? There are no local needs when the kiddies are playing spin the bottle and the mature ones are swapping partners, then again many have returned to vomit and mess with pigs. So what! We don't eat bloodguilt in our sausages. That having been said, isolation tanks for everyone, and go swim with a dolphin today.