by alienone 9 Replies latest jw friends
Question for opposers:
If world events unfold pretty much as the WTS predicts (or rather, as they interpret the Bible to predict), and this culminates in Armageddon, where Jehovah makes himself known and publicly endorses JWs....
How would you begin rationalize that?
as an obviously drug induced dream.
Well, in all of the religions 120+ year history, it has so far got every prediction wrong.
If it did get something right then I would call it luck. Fire enough arrows and you'll hit something eventually.
Whatever you'd like to imagine about Armageddon coming "any day now" which it's apparently been doing for the last 120 years I don't have any worries.
How do you rationalise the fact that nothing they have prophecied has ever come true but you still believe that Jehovah is using them?
How will you rationalise wasting your life when you are old and grey and it has't arrived?
I rationalize that many JW's will become alcoholics, abusers, power hungry people....oh wait!!! They already are. So I'm just an observer after all and not a prophet.
BTW, Guinness is the way to a more spiritually fulfilled life. Read my book, Where Guinness fears to tread. thanks
Rationalize?
Some would likely refuse to see, wrapping themselves up in the selfsame blanket of denial that prevents most JW’s from intelligently dealing with the overwhelming evidence that the WTB&TS possesses neither a special position with God nor any more insight into what the future holds than that of any other person or group.
I may well be wrong, but your question smacks of one particularly offensive aspect of this denial in which “apostates” and “opposers” are cast as individuals who don’t want to do what is right and don’t want to serve God if in fact he does exist.
This is wrong. Most people, xJW, or not, would be thrilled if somewhere high above us there really is, in the words of James Russell Lowell “the great all-father who cares for us here below” and who has at long last, decided to once again reveal himself to his children.
Whether such an apocalypsis confirmed the world view of JW’s or not, how could it be rationalized away?
HAHAHHAHA I'm with Six of Nine!!!!! I have NOOOO FEAR of that. It's like asking what I would do if I was abducted by aliens or something.
Ven
"WE will make NO distinction between those who commit the act of Pedophilia and those who harbor them!!!"
I'm with Venice on this. This question is like asking "what would you do if You Know was proved right and Jehovah publically endorsed him?"
Nothing is unfolding in the slightest way like the WTS predicts.
Thirdson
'To avoid criticism, say nothing, do nothing, be nothing'
The Witness way of predicting the future is to shoot an arrow up in the air and when it lands, paint the bulls eye around it.
All great deeds and all great thoughts have ridiculous beginnings--Albert Camus
Alienone said:
"Question for opposers:
If world events unfold pretty much as the WTS predicts (or rather, as they interpret the Bible to predict), and this culminates in Armageddon, where Jehovah makes himself known and publicly endorses JWs....
How would you begin rationalize that? "
Well, for starters, I'd ask why god lied in the bible? After all, Deuterotemy clearly shows via the Watchtower's own statements that they are false prophets..
So, I'd have to wonder why God lied to me...
BTW: Obviously, God cannot lie, so the only explanation is that the JW's are not prophets, and if they do get it right somehow, it will be by mere accident..
And I'm not holding out any hope that they got it correct this time, either.. After all, they should have something in their record to fall back on..
At least this way, in a future watchtower they can honestly say, "We have a 100% proven track record with our prophecies".. Getting any of their prophecies correct, and they couldn't claim that distincive honor any longer!!!
I think a better question, however, would be why has it been 120+ years, and they still haven't gotten one prophecy right yet? Even an average person has better luck than that.. Could it be that GOD doesn't want them to get anything right, and is making sure to 'frustrate' the false prophet, so as to give warning to any WT followers to "get out of her" before it's too late?
Oh,
Alienone, just so we are clear that the WT does more than just "interpret" the bible when making prophecies, I give you these..
Please contrast these statements from the WT with:
(From the New International Version)
Deuteronomy 18:18 - 22
18 I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their brothers; I will put my words in his mouth, and he will tell them everything I command him.
19 If anyone does not listen to my words that the prophet speaks in my name, I myself will call him to account.
20 But a prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not commanded him to say, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, must be put to death."
21 You may say to yourselves, "How can we know when a message has not been spoken by the LORD?"
22 If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the LORD does not take place or come true, that is a message the LORD has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously. Do not be afraid of him.
