by ISP 6 Replies latest jw friends
The WTS has made a whole range of prophecies that are fulfilled in seemingly insignificant matters. The Cedar Point Conventions are foretold in Revelation...they say. But there are much more significant events that don't get a mention! Haha! Care to jot down a few things? I got some and will post them later!
ISP
I like the old stuff.
The death of ezekials wife (or was it Jeremiahs) was paralleled
by the disconnecting of pastor Russells wife from the org.
Jesus in the temple at 12 years old was paralled by Russell reading his fathers business accounts at 12 years old.
Ok! The WTS often come up with some garbage about celestial phenomena.
For example
*** w68 12/15 751-2 How We Know It Is Getting Near ***
5 What, though, about the foretold “signs in sun and moon and stars, and on the earth anguish of nations, not knowing the way out because of the roaring of the sea and its agitation, while men become faint out of fear and expectation of the things coming upon the inhabited earth”? (Luke 21:25, 26) Could it mean anything different from what happened on May 19, 1780, when the sun was darkened? This produced a nightlike darkness that extended over 329,000 square miles of New England, United States of America, this being followed on the subsequent night by the darkening of the moon, when at its full, and also of the stars. Also, on the early morning of November 12/13, 1833, there occurred a meteoric shower in which millions on millions of starlike meteors fell over North America and which covered 11,000,000 square miles, a heavenly phenomenon so impressive that it caught the attention of scientific men. Yet not long ago, early on November 17, 1966, there was an awesome meteoric shower that rained on the upper atmosphere of southwestern United States, from Texas to Arizona.
6 Well, in our twentieth century of scientific advancement nothing like such strange celestial phenomena would terrify most people into believing that the “end of the world” was near. True, but today the science of astronomy, telescopic and radio, has made such advancement as to detect more phenomena about sun, moon and stars and their effect upon the earth and its inhabitants.
7 Now we are informed of how those great flares of nuclear energy producing so-called sunspots send out streams of powerful electronic particles that not only cause disruption in the field of shortwave radio and magnetic areas but also affect people to an abnormal extent, a new cycle of sunspots due to reach its peak in 1970. The earth is continually being bombarded with cosmic rays. Great belts of ionized particles encircle the earth and endanger astronauts maneuvering in outer space. Tremendous quasars, which are sources of radio waves, are being discovered; and radio telescopes are picking up signals from invisible heavenly bodies. Rockets have released capsules that have given a soft landing to radar cameras on the surface of the moon, transmitting back to earth closeup pictures of the moon’s terrain. The scientific projects of putting men on the moon lead to fears that the moon will be made a military base from which to control the earth.
8 Our awareness of such “signs” in sun, moon and stars as produced by modern scientific findings only adds to the “anguish of nations.”
But in actual fact there was in fact more significant matters not reported on....
'On June 30, 1908, a giant fireball raced across the night sky. Then it exploded with the force of 1,000 Hiroshima bombs killing herds of reindeer and scorching hundreds of miles of trees. It happened in a remote place in Siberia called Tunguska. The night sky had a strange orange glow as far away as Western Europe. The only proof that something happened was a quiver on a seismograph 1,000 miles away in the city of Irkutusk.
Scientists did not come to the sight for another 19 years. When they finally did come, what they saw was a place of utter devastation. They searched for a crater, a piece of and asteroid or meteorite but found nothing. They were able to find eyewitnesses in neighboring villages though. They recalled that there had been a fireball streaking through the sky, a horrifying noise, and an enormous blast.From then on there have been many theories as to what happened that early June morning. The theories ranged from meteor impact to an exploding spaceship. Using computer simulations, scientists know it is a meteorite from an asteroid that fragmented in the atmosphere.
The first person to visit Tunguska was Leonid Kulik. When he first saw the vast area of charred trees, he thought that a huge fire had started all at once. Kulik and his team photographed the area and searched for meteorite fragments but found nothing. Over the next 14 years, he lead four more expeditions to Tunguska, but turned up empty-handed. Kulik died in 1942 as a prisoner of war.
In 1946, a Soviet engineer and army colonel wrote a short story explaining that the destruction at Tunguska could only have been from a nuclear bomb, and that since humans did not have that capability in 1908, it must have been an exploding spaceship. The book became popular in the Soviet Union and a group of scientists, Victor Zhuravlyov and Gennady Plekhanov, decided to find out if it were true. There would still be measurable levels of radiation. They searched for two years but found nothing.
Since then, Russian scientists have gone to Tunguska ever summer. One of the most useful things they did was map the entire 850 square mile region of tree fall. This task took them 35 years to do. This map has allowed scientist to calculate that the blast must have been four miles above the Earth with a force of 10 to 20 megatons of TNT.
In 1989 an Italian named Menotti Galli had a theory that tiny particles of the object would be stuck in the resin of the trees. He went to Tunguska in 1991 and painstakingly searched for spruces that had survived the 1908 blast. In all they found six samples in a 5-mile radius. They found that the particles in the trees had unusually high levels of elements. These elements were also smooth in texture and had a rounded shape. This meant that they had to be heated at a high temperature.'
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ISP
hey, the Witnesses cant claim rights to the 1780 "dark day", the Adventists have had dibs on that one since the 1830s.
Wasnt there something a few years back about the Witnesses shifting the "generation" to commence 1957 with the launch of sputnik?
Like the interp of Daniels 2300 days in the Wt of Dec 1,1971.
The writer cant make up his mind when they start and finish!
(WT 1971,pages724-726)
There's a real treasure-trove of absurd applications of scripture to themselves by the Borg in "Jehovah's Witnesses in the Divine Purpose" which, in essence, is the official JW apologia.
In one place a scripture that speaks of tongues of fire raining down on the heads of false religionists (from somewhere in the OT) was applied to the JWs in Philadelphia in the 1930s, and the "tongues of fire" - says the Watchtower - were the leaflets that were distributed around the city challenging the city's clergy to come out and debate Da Judge. These leaflets were the "tongues of fire" upon the heads of the clergy as foretold in third Hezekiah 4:22-31. Of course, the clergy didn't show up for the debates, just like the JWs refuse to come out and debate today. And for that refusal, Da Judge crowed loudly how that was full and complete evidence that the clergy was false and knew it.
As some of you will remember, I've publically challenged the WT and all their fat-cat, mote-loving, JW pig-dog hired gun attorneys to a public debate on the question: Jehovah's Witnesses are a Religious Cult. They've never responded, and won't. But back in the thirties if you were in the mainstream clergy and you refused to debate Da Judge, that was prima facie evidence that you represented false religion.
Now the shoe is on the other foot and the GB and all their attorneys are utterly silent when one small voice alone and with no particular training in the law challenges them to a debate on their own terms; that is a reasonable time and place of thier choosing.
Well if refusal to debate means you're guilty in the thirties, it must mean the same today. Gutless wonders. One guy against 57 attorneys and the entire writing, service, and whatever else department they want to bring.
I'm impressed.
FT
Good lord. The WTBTS is always a hoot when it comes to prophecy. Thanks for posting the interesting stuff, guys....I never DID pay enough attention to this junk when I was in.
ashi
Oh judge Rutherford! Oh those tongues of fire!! descending!!!
No!...It burns! it BURNNSSS!!
Actually, I hope you guys dont mind but henceforth Im going to use the term "borg" as well. Love that term.
My all time favourite witness "shifting sands of interpretation"
thing is comparing The good old "Finished Mystery" interp of Revelation, scripture by scripture, with their current interp.
I believe there isnt a damn interp thats remained the same.
Even the rider on the White horse they got wrong. In "F M"its Satan.
A real eyepopper comparing them.
I found another beauty from 1971, (it was a very good year)
Read the entire December 15th issue of the WT for 1971.
Behold the borgs twisted reasoning as they try to tell everyone theres been a "governing body"since 1879 while trying to organize a corporation vote to establish the GB!
Its a classic!
(Sorry the 1971 WT is the only volume unpacked at the moment)
