Windfall profits for Dummies

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  • JeffT
    JeffT

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120977019142563957.html?mod=opinion_main_review_and_outlooks

    Windfall Profits for Dummies
    May 3, 2008; Page A10

    This is one strange debate the candidates are having on energy policy. With gas prices close to $4 a gallon, Hillary Clinton and John McCain say they'll bring relief with a moratorium on the 18.4-cent federal gas tax. Barack Obama opposes that but prefers a 1970s-style windfall profits tax (as does Mrs. Clinton).

    Mr. Obama is right to oppose the gas-tax gimmick, but his idea is even worse. Neither proposal addresses the problem of energy supply, especially the lack of domestic oil and gas thanks to decades of Congressional restrictions on U.S. production. Mr. Obama supports most of those "no drilling" rules, but that hasn't stopped him from denouncing high gas prices on the campaign trail. He is running TV ads in North Carolina that show him walking through a gas station and declaring that he'll slap a tax on the $40 billion in "excess profits" of Exxon Mobil.

    The idea is catching on. Last week Pennsylvania Congressman Paul Kanjorski introduced a windfall profits tax as part of what he called the "Consumer Reasonable Energy Price Protection Act of 2008." So now we have Congress threatening to help itself to business profits even though Washington already takes 35% right off the top with the corporate income tax.

    You may also be wondering how a higher tax on energy will lower gas prices. Normally, when you tax something, you get less of it, but Mr. Obama seems to think he can repeal the laws of economics. We tried this windfall profits scheme in 1980. It backfired. The Congressional Research Service found in a 1990 analysis that the tax reduced domestic oil production by 3% to 6% and increased oil imports from OPEC by 8% to 16%. Mr. Obama nonetheless pledges to lessen our dependence on foreign oil, which he says "costs America $800 million a day." Someone should tell him that oil imports would soar if his tax plan becomes law. The biggest beneficiaries would be OPEC oil ministers.

    There's another policy contradiction here. Exxon is now under attack for buying back $2 billion of its own stock rather than adding to the more than $21 billion it is likely to invest in energy research and exploration this year. But hold on. If oil companies believe their earnings from exploring for new oil will be expropriated by government – and an excise tax on profits is pure expropriation – they will surely invest less, not more. A profits tax is a sure formula to keep the future price of gas higher.

    Exxon's profits are soaring with the recent oil price spike, but the energy industry's earnings aren't as outsized as the politicians seem to think. Thomson Financial calculates that profits from the oil and natural gas industry over the past year were 8.3% of investment, while the all-industry average is 7.8%. And this was a boom year for oil. An analysis by the Cato Institute's Jerry Taylor finds that between 1970 and 2003 (which includes peak and valley years for earnings) the oil and gas business was "less profitable than the rest of the U.S. economy." These are hardly robber barons.

    This tiff over gas and oil taxes only highlights the intellectual policy confusion – or perhaps we should say cynicism – of our politicians. They want lower prices but don't want more production to increase supply. They want oil "independence" but they've declared off limits most of the big sources of domestic oil that could replace foreign imports. They want Americans to use less oil to reduce greenhouse gases but they protest higher oil prices that reduce demand. They want more oil company investment but they want to confiscate the profits from that investment. And these folks want to be President?

    Late this week, a group of Senate Republicans led by Pete Domenici of New Mexico introduced the "American Energy Production Act of 2008" to expand oil production off the U.S. coasts and in Alaska. It has the potential to increase domestic production enough to keep America running for five years with no foreign imports. With the world price of oil at $116 a barrel, if not now, when? No word yet if Senators Clinton and Obama will take time off from denouncing oil profits to vote for that.

  • Hope4Others
    Hope4Others

    I thought I was going to get tips on winning the lottery!

    There's another policy contradiction here. Exxon is now under attack for buying back $2 billion of its own stock rather than adding to the more than $21 billion it is likely to invest in energy research and exploration this year. But hold on. If oil companies believe their earnings from exploring for new oil will be expropriated by government – and an excise tax on profits is pure expropriation – they will surely invest less, not more. A profits tax is a sure formula to keep the future price of gas higher.

    With these a$$es its all about the bottom dollar and profits, profits, profits. They make billions what is a little tax that could be used to benefit the people and country.(maybe not little)

    It could bring a boost to Canada and the U.S with further exploration and development in our own economy's. God knows we sure need it!

    Cheers,

    hope4others

  • JeffT
    JeffT

    The problem is not the investment money per say, it is that the government won't let them spend it (at least not on drilling for oil) even if they wanted to. The federal government collects about $60,000,000 per day in gas taxes, without contributing anything at all to the bottom line.

  • oneairhead
    oneairhead

    Don't let flipper see this thread.

    one

  • drew sagan
    drew sagan

    High prices are due to a number of factors. Current production levels of domestic product is one factor, but is a smaller factor some other things, the major one being speculation and the other is the falling dollar. Currently our oil reserves are actually very good and contrary to what the president has said new refineries are on their way.

    There are so many factors contributing to this problem and there is simply no short term fix that any legislation can change at this point. Oh, and ANWR is a drop in the bucket, don't even try to say that is the answer.

  • WTWizard
    WTWizard

    Here are some even better ways to cut gas prices (that they are not going to use):

    (1) Develop sensible alternatives. Not that crap "bioethanol" program, either--which was engineered to cause food price spikes without solving the real problem, while looking good. When are we going to see them put nuclear fusion power plants in second gear? What about existing nuclear fission? Couldn't it be improved so the nuclear wastes could be reused for additional power? What about solar, wind, and geothermal? And, what about those "free energy" machines the oil companies do not want the public to know about?

    (2) Using energy wisely. Do you really need a SUV to go to the corner store to pick up a gallon of milk? Walking or bicycling provide great exercise plus they do not use oil or gas to run. Getting the car tuned up will help--start with the tire pressure. Get that roof rack off when not in use. The flag is patriotic, but it creates drag which wastes gas (and worse so at higher speeds). Steady speed uses less gas, but if you are approaching a hill, speed up just before you reach it and let your speed drop some as you climb (it saves gas instead of maintaining a steady speed). If, for instance, you speed up to 65 or 70 just as you are about to climb, you might slow to 55 or so near the top. If you are going 55 at the foot, you might have to shift down or use more gas to maintain 55 near the top.

    (3) Drive sensibly. Speeding creates more drag and can waste gas; jackrabbit starts, too. Using too low a gear makes no sense (I have seen people drive down whole city blocks in second gear, wasting gas and making too much noise). Use the highest gear you can without putting undue strain on the engine.

    (4) Pick a car with better efficiency. Size it for your needs. You need a SUV if you regularly haul lots of gear and/or drive off road a lot. But, if your average commute involves driving on the expressway with a laptop computer, a small car will be enough. A 4 door car makes sense if you regularly haul people around (scout leaders may need one, as may parents with several children). However, a single commuter or one with a single passenger will be just fine with only two doors.

    (5) Shop for price, but within reason. It makes no sense to drive 20 miles to save 5 cents a gallon when gas is $4 a gallon. Also, saving the 10 cents for a lower grade makes less sense now at $4 a gallon than it did when gas was $1 a gallon. However, if two gas stations a few feet apart have different prices, go cheap. And, if your car will run fine on cheaper gas, that's the grade to select.

  • BurnTheShips
    BurnTheShips

    "Profit envy".

    We need more investment in oil production, Obama wants to disincentivize the only industry that can do this. Idiocy.

    The oil corporations are itching for new production. They are getting stymied. They want what we want. More oil. That said, we will never be energy independent at our current level of oil consumption. The best we can hope for is to dent the rise in price while we work on switching over to something else. Even if we pumped all of our own oil, oil is a global commodity and reflects global supply and demand. Even if we were energy independent, and the spot price was, say $200, we'd still be paying $200 for oil.

    It isn't simple. The Euros have been paying multiples of US pump prices for decades. The UK was energy independent in the 80's before the North Sea started petering out. Their price at the pump was much higher also. The Euros have had incentives to replace IC powered vehicles for a long time, and the pressure of higher prices hasn't led them to a solution.

    BTS

  • BurnTheShips
    BurnTheShips
    With these a$$es its all about the bottom dollar and profits, profits, profits. They make billions what is a little tax that could be used to benefit the people and country.(maybe not little)

    Hope, these asses are publicly traded companies. They have an obligation to their shareholders. Hence the buyback. It is about profits, and maximizing shareholder value--they are the actual owners, remember? Business exists to provide a good or service and generate a profit thereby. It isn't evil. To create an ad-hoc tax is arbitrary and unfair. It depresses the industry just when we need them to come up with ways to increase supply the most.

    BTS

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