JW's kids AGAIN...Brothers Stovall

by dungbeetle 7 Replies latest social current

  • dungbeetle
    dungbeetle

    From

    * http://www.thedenverchannel.com/den/news/stories/news-99787220011001-061044.html

    Twins Suspected In Cop Murder Appear In Court
    Suspects Escorted To Court Under Heavy Guard
    Posted: 5:59 a.m. MDT October 1, 2001
    Updated: 5:36 p.m. MDT October 1, 2001

    PENROSE, Colo. -- Investigators are trying to determine how a sheriff's deputy known to be thorough and conscientious could have been fatally shot, allegedly by twin brothers riding handcuffed in the back of his patrol car. Joel and Michael Stovall, 24, were arrested Saturday on suspicion of shooting Fremont County Sheriff's Deputy Jason Schwartz , 26, in the back of the head several times.
    Schwartz had arrested them Friday for shooting a dog in Penrose, 85 miles south of Denver.

    The twins were formally advised of murder charges Monday afternoon in Freemont County. They were appointed lawyers and ordered held without bail. The suspects' next hearing date was set for Oct. 24. Fremont County Sheriff Ivan Middlemiss said afterward they will face charges of first-degree murder of an officer and conspiracy to commit first-degree murder.

    Deputies say that the pair later shot and wounded Florence police officer Toby Bethel, 32, and taunted the paramedics who arrived to help him. They surrendered Saturday after an all-day pursuit that led into the scenic canyons along the Arkansas River near the Royal Gorge. Bethel was in in critical condition Monday at St. Anthony Central Hospital in Denver. Bethel -- the father of three children and four foster children, and who had had his kidney, spleen and liver removed -- was hit once in the shoulder and twice in the back. The officer had surgery Sunday morning to remove a bullet from near his spine.

    Dead Officer Not Shot With Own Weapon
    It was unclear how the men, described as loners with a penchant for wearing camouflage, got a gun in Schwartz's patrol car, according to Fremont County Sheriff Ivan Middlemiss. He said that Schwartz was not killed with his own weapon. Family members said Schwartz disliked carrying his service shotgun in his patrol car because he thought the weapon, loaded with slugs, was too potent. He often locked the shotgun in the trunk or left it in its locked rack above his head and put the ammunition in the trunk, according to his wife, Sheryl, and his brother-in-law, Jason Noel, a sergeant in the sheriff's department.

    Suspects Armed With Automatic Weapons

    The brothers had several automatic weapons when they surrendered Saturday. Joel and Michael Stovall were wearing protective vests, much like those police officers use, and also were wearing protective helmets, said Ronny Bergmann, Chaffee County Sheriff. One of the twins sustained a gunshot wound when some shotgun pellets pierced his shoulder. At the home in Penrose where the twins lived with their grandmother, investigators said they found several guns and knives and what they believe to be ingredients for a bomb.

    Fremont County Sheriff's Detective Robert Dodd said the twin brothers have "expressed militaristic attitudes and interest in survivalist subjects." He would not elaborate. "They were known to be tight with each other. They didn't really have friends on the outside, at least not many of them," Dodd said.

    Police Officer's Infant Son Will Be Re-Named
    Jason and Sheryl Schwartz had their first child five weeks ago.
    Jason Schwartz switched to the night shift so he could watch their son while Sheryl worked during the day. They named the baby Mason because there were already two Jasons in the family, but Sheryl Schwartz said she would change the boy's name to Jason in honor of her husband.

    Suspects Raised In Religious Family
    The Stovalls were raised in a religious family of Jehovah's Witnesses, according to Betty Overbey, who works at the Oasis Tavern on Main Street in Florence. Their parents separated about 14 years ago, and the boys lived with their father after that, Overbey said. But in recent years both had been living with and taking care of their grandmother in Penrose, who suffers from Alzheimer's disease.

    Florence Police Chief Mike Ingle said this is not the first time the Stovalls have been in trouble with the law. When they attended Florence High School, the two were arrested for arson, he said. The target: the high school itself. Joel and Michael were sophomores at Florence High when the incident occurred. During a choir class, they broke into an attic area, lit newspapers and magazines on fire, and dropped them down an air vent, said John Merriam, the principal at the time. The fire caused $420 in damage and forced the school, with 500 students, to evacuate, said Merriam, now superintendent for Florence and Penrose schools. No one was hurt in the incident. Since that time, though, Florence police have not had much interaction with the brothers, Ingle said.

    More info:

    * http://www.thedenverchannel.com/den/news/stories/news-99724320010929-100907.html

    Commentary: Gee, you think the brothers were on private/public reproof at the time of these crimes?

    And: Just how much will this failed Jehovah's Witness social experiment in Watchtower child-rearing policeis cost the taxpayers THIS TIME?

    BITE ME, WATCHTOWER!!!

  • Julie
    Julie

    Wow! Another fine example of very angry results of a horrible childhood. I think the WT owes society a very heavy debt. It's enough to make one wish there really was a hell.

    Julie

  • DIM
    DIM

    i'm leaving the JW's in 3 months.....i doubt I'll do anything like this. Do you guys blame the JW's for everything that goes wrong w/ your life? christ, thats pathetic. "i lost my job" - stupid jw upbringing. "i lost my marriage" - stupid jw upbringing...and so on and so on. it really gets tiresome. your life is what you make of it.

    i'm sick and tired of hearing things from uptight-short-sighted-narrow minded hypocritics. all i want is the truth just gimme some truth - John Lennon

  • mommy
    mommy

    Dim,
    I agree, life is what you make of it. I am glad you reached that point in your life. Obviously there are many don't including many young people who blame their past instead of learning from it. These youths can cause quite a bit of damage as the article shows.

    To accuse these two woman of not reaching that point from their comments is a narrow minded. They were commmenting on two youths who stole a father and husband from this earth. The boys upbringing was as Jw's, and all of us here can agree that the JW lifestyle is not the most healthiest on this earth.

    In 3 months, I hope you don't go out and shoot people, or set fire to a school. Do you think it would be fair of me to ask you why you are waiting 3 months to leave if you know the JW lifestyle is not right for you? Of course not, and I wouldn't. We all have our reasons for doing things. As we mature we are able to reason as to why. Until then I grieve for the youths who have not reached that point. And yes I do blame their childhood, it is up to them to realize that it does not have to effect their lives.
    wendy

    Blind faith can justify anything.~Richard Dawkins

  • dungbeetle
    dungbeetle

    I had a reason for putting this article up here, and for commenting as I did. Just wait--especially you, mommy--untill I have this past Sunday's Watchtower study up.

    Have your barf bag reday. Generally, i don't comment n the study articles I put up. This one is a doozy...and qualifies, IMHO, for a another mass mailing campaign to every mental health professional in the phone book, just like the 'domestic violence' Awake.

    Grrrrrrrrr

    BITE ME, WATCHTOWER!!!

  • sf
    sf

    "for a another mass mailing campaign to every mental health professional in the phone book,..."

    Just let "us" know and it will be done. I am all over the media right now. The more ammo, the faster the snowball rolls.

    As hawkaw says, "let's roll".

    sKally

    wcrestnpeace

  • jst2laws
    jst2laws

    dungbeetle,

    You and I know how this experience touches my heart. My wife and I actually attended this last Sundays WT study. It was disgusting. While my children are now looked down upon for terrible infractions such as a navel ring or unacceptable hair style we have another case of true fruitage the WT society’s teachings.

    Dim:
    "your life is what you make of it."
    Good point. Please understand though, many are upset by the control some have had over the lives of others before they grew strong enough to realize: "your life is what you make of it."

    Jst2laws

  • buffalosrfree
    buffalosrfree

    This article really hit home, I'm originally from Fremont County, Colo (Canon City is major city there). I even know Ivan Middlemiss, he was in the same high school I was in. He left went to the Army for a 20 years career spent a good portion of this with the special forces, master parachutist etc etc. Came back home and evidently went into law enforcement or Politics or both. Now he catches back shooting exjdubs, my my how the world goes around. I was a year behind him and his brother Kerry was in the same class as me. Well guess we all grow a little older and smarter too bad that the society of Jdubs didn't. They just seem to grow more and more brain dead, and outside the normal bounds of societal behavior, Pedophile protection agency, thier being in the UN and involved with human rights is also disgusting when you think how they are more than rteady to violate the human rights of thier brain dead followers.

    Penrose is memntioned in the Article a quaint little town when I lived in Canon City, but now its grown up almost as big as Canon City was in the ole days. What with all the officers and secular personnel needed to run the prison system in Canon and Florence. Florence High was a rival school, not much of a rival but it was ours. ole well enough of this. buff

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