Help please...

by davidguest 9 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • davidguest
    davidguest

    I am writing a book, and i need the best possible quote from the Society where they state clearly that God is using them and only them. there are a million quotes that uses the term "Gods Organization", but i need it to be "Jehovahs Witnesses."

  • AudeSapere
    AudeSapere

    My first suggestion is to direct you to Blondie's posts.

    But then I had to smile and then laugh. She has over 25,000 posts. Almost every one a gem.

    Hopefully someone will come along with the info you need. I know that this exact question was answered in the past 3 - 6 months and I think it was Blondie that provided the quotes.

    I'm at work but if I can find a link, I will post back.

    Good Luck with your own search!!

    -Aude.

  • davidguest
    davidguest

    Thanks for your help. I am scouring the Watchtower Library as we speak. the most recent, the better!

  • Eyes Open
    Eyes Open

    Does it need to be recent?

  • davidguest
    davidguest

    As recent as possible, the book will be released in January of next year, and i am making last minute edits.

  • AudeSapere
    AudeSapere

    I found some leads for you...

    google this (be sure to include the plus (+) signs): sole+channel+jehovah

    The first hit is from Quotes' website.

    On JWD, search for "sole channel" (and be sure to include the quotation marks). Look in just the body, for posts within the last year. JWD yielded over 80 hits.

    I don't have time to find the ones best suited to your question but I think these two searches will help you find what you need relatively quickly.

    Hope this helps.

    -Aude.

  • AudeSapere
    AudeSapere

    Well, gee...!!

    To all JWD users - I found this little gem on Quotes:

    Our Kingdom Ministry September 2002 (For Britain) p. 8 5 God's Appointed Channel:Bear in mind that our heavenly Father has an appointed channel of communication, "the faithful and discreet slave." That "slave" has the responsibility to determine what information is made available to the household of faith, as well as "the proper time" for it to be dispensed. This spiritual food is available only through the theocratic organization. We should always look to God's appointed channel for reliable information, not to a network of Internet users. — Matt.24:45. [Emphasis Added]

    I think the wrong sentence was emphasized. Read the last sentence:

    We should always look to God's appointed channel for reliable information, not to a network of Internet users. Alternate emphasis by Aude.

    This was from the UK KingdomMinistry back in 2002. I wonder what little network of Internet users they were referring to????

    Very cool. [Sorry for the minor hijack, david]

    -Aude.

  • AudeSapere
    AudeSapere

    Here's a link to a post from Blondie 2 years ago: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/11/115824/3.ashx

    I know there was something more recent so will check a little further.

    I think that the WTS has been much more cautious in putting that concept in writing lately. Those words have come to bite them. The thread linked above was actually in discussion to a phone conversation that LDH had (and recorded!) with JR Brown - spokesperson for the WTS. In that conversation he actually denied that JWs believe they are the only

    Here is a clip from one of LDH's posts within the thread linked above (she is taking notes while speaking directly with JR Brown who believes her to be a reporter):

    Now it gets interesting because I moved very smoothly into the position of the church. VERBATIM from my hand written notes

    • JWs are BIBLE STUDENTS only. The Governing Body is NOT SPIRIT INSPIRED.
    • JWS as a whole are NOT INSPIRED
    • JWs are not the ONLY spokesperson organization of God on earth
    • THERE IS NO SPECIAL LINE TO GOD that the JW church has (I shit you not)
    • IS the JW a doomsday cult? No, because the word "doomsday" to them means only the end of wickedness. We are in the last days as seen in fulfillment of Bible prophecy regarding the signs.
    • Is there a PREDICTION of when the last days would end in a holocaust/Armegeddon etc. Is there insider knowledge of the END? NO THERE IS NOT
    • And I quote "We have zealously thought we would have more info by now about the exact time of the end but we don't" Follow up question--so there is no direct communication between God and the JWs on this matter? Correct.
    • The organization exists only to see the Good news proclaimed of God's kingdom which is made up of Chosen Rulers who are in heaven. The JWs will be subjects of that kingdom.

    So I think you may be seriously challenged to find direct quotes in WT literature post 1995 (???) where they made the explicit claims that they were the sole/exclusive channel of communication between god and man.

    It doesn't negate the reality that is still a cherished belief. I just don't think you will find it written in their current publications.

    However, if you *DO* come across a recent proclamation, please, PLEASE, post it here so others can reference it.

    I hope this helps a little.

    -Aude.

  • davidguest
    davidguest

    Watchtower 2001 jun1 16 Millions of people throughout the world have evaluated the facts and have become convinced that Jehovah’s Witnesses alone are practicing the true religion. They have reached this conclusion on the basis of what Jehovah’s Witnesses teach and how they conduct themselves, as well as on the basis of the benefits their religion has brought. (Isaiah 48:17) Millions are, in effect, saying, as foretold at Zechariah 8:23: “We will go with you people, for we have heard that God is with you people.” 17 Is it presumptuous of Jehovah’s Witnesses to point out that they alone have God’s backing? Actually, no more so than when the Israelites in Egypt claimed to have God’s backing in spite of the Egyptians’ belief, or when first-century Christians claimed to have God’s backing to the exclusion of Jewish religionists. The facts speak for themselves. In 235 lands Jehovah’s Witnesses are doing the work Jesus foretold that his true followers would be doing in the time of the end: “This good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come.”—Matthew 24:14. 18 Jehovah’s Witnesses will continue to carry out this commission, never allowing persecution or opposition to impede their activity. Jehovah’s work must and will be done. Every attempt others have made during the past century to hinder the Witnesses from accomplishing God’s work has ended in ultimate failure, for Jehovah promised: “Any weapon whatever that will be formed against you will have no success, and any tongue at all that will rise up against you in the judgment you will condemn. This is the hereditary possession of the servants of Jehovah, and their righteousness is from me.”

  • AudeSapere
    AudeSapere

    Found the thread I was initially thinking of: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/12/159598/1.ashx

    Scroll down to Blondie's post. She references jwfacts.com.

    OK. I'm done. Good night!

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