How might this affect "apostates"and other truth seakers?

by cameo-d 4 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • cameo-d
    cameo-d

    This is from article:

    “Defamation of Religion” — The New International Legal Craze?

    "Is liability for “defamation of religion” catching on? The United Nations hopes so, reports Maclean’s. (HT: Volokh Conspiracy) According to Maclean’s, Pakistan brought the first “defamation of religions” resolution, entitled “Defamation of Islam,” to the UN Human Rights Council in 1999. (The title was later changed to include all religions,..."

    "In March, the Islamic nations were successful in introducing a change to the mandate of the UN’s “special rapporteur on freedom of expression” (an official who travels the world investigating and reporting on censorship and violations of free speech) to now “report on instances where the abuse of the right of freedom of expression constitutes an act of racial or religious discrimination.” "

    http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2008/08/04/defamation-of-religion-the-new-international-legal-craze/#comments

    I am wondering if you think this will affect freedom of being able to speak out against cult teachings in the future?

  • Slappy
    Slappy

    Wow, that's more a less a cease-fire being forced on all religions? It sounds like some religious po-dunk got tired of not being able to refute the many glaring problems in his relgion and is looking for an easy way out. Good luck on it actually working. There's a reason our forefathers wanted to keep religion separate from state...some people are really good at ignoring the wisdom of others. By bringing the 'state' to 'religion', they will no longer be separate, and whenever you bring 'religion' into something it takes over and throws common sense a lot further out the window than any stupid law made by the state. Lol, the one thing it's trying to stop will be the one thing that will actually be accelerated; all hell will break loose.

    Maybe if one plays a well thought out game of semantics we will be able to differentiate between a 'cult' and a 'religion'. Maybe one truly brilliant individual will be able to show that all 'religions' are 'cults' in disguise and blow this motion out of the water? Now that would be something.

    Now who wants to play a game of prophecy? This is the beginning of Babylon (that is the symbol of a world religion right?) and all hell breaking loose as a result is the fiery destruction that will come upon us. The end is near! Doom and destruction, death and hades, beer and vicodin...huh?

    Lmao...sorry, I shouldn't be doing anything when I'm this tired, I get a little...sarcastic? facetious? stupid?? ridiculous? all of the above?

    slappy

  • cameo-d
    cameo-d

    This bill has been discussed for several years, has gained momentum, and seems to be closer to resolution or at least compromise.

    Here's a clip from http://www.becketfund.org/index.php/article/797.html?PHPSESSID=c053be0fb98673cf13a14265379334ea

    "Angela C. Wu, international law director at the Becket Fund for Religious Liberty, today (July 17, 2008)....

    Ms. Wu said if "defamation of religions" resolutions currently before the United Nations went into effect in member states, any religious speech another group or individual found "offensive" could be criminalized.

    "The U.N. resolutions establish the ability to sue for “defamatory” speech of an idea rather than a person. Criticizing any religion, saying the Prophet Mohamed is not a prophet, or Jesus did not come to redeem sins, could offend someone and be a cause of action," said Miss Wu. But Ms. Wu said that Rep. Steve Cohen, Tennessee Democrat, and 16 co-sponsors have proposed legislation to thwart the U.N. proposals, as well as the blasphemy and “hate speech” laws already in the books in much of Europe and the Middle East. "

    Do you think this would mean that JWs could no longer criticize other religions?

    Would this mean that ex-JWs could no longer criticize the WBTS organization?

  • Jeremy C
    Jeremy C

    The United Nations passes more resolutions than a old horse passes gas. Gas is usually what comprises most U.N. resolutions. Within the resolutions, you will find language such as "targets" and "goals", especially within resolutions regarding global poverty, literacy, drinking water, and other issues. Reducing religious intolerace has been on the agenda of goals for quite some time now.

    Remember that the U.N. had passed numerous resolutions against Sadam Hussein (a man who was killing thousands for sport) with almost no enforcement. If the U.N. could not even bring itself to enforce their resolutions against a mass murdering dictator, it is hardly likely that they will send in their blue helmeted forces to arrest Randy Watters for operating an anti-Watchtower website.

  • sir82
    sir82
    If the U.N. could not even bring itself to enforce their resolutions against a mass murdering dictator, it is hardly likely that they will send in their blue helmeted forces to arrest Randy Watters for operating an anti-Watchtower website.

    Oh come on now!

    Very soon now the UN will be leading the charge of forceably and violently closing down all religious institutions, bulldozing churches, arresting clergymen, looting the Vatican, and just generally causing mayhem throughout the earth!

    You obviously haven't read your Revelation Climax book recently....

    Hope Randy Watters isn't hiding inside a church.

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