Was Law of Moses really necessary?

by cameo-d 6 Replies latest watchtower bible

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  cameo-d

  Were people really so unfeeling and barbaric that they needed the behavioral laws of Moses?

  How do you think our civizalition would be today if we had never had those laws?

  Would people be better off to have been left to conscious and peer pressure to guide behavior?

  Do you think Moses made up the rules laws as a platform for political control, using God as an excuse for tyranny?

  Could mankind live without dominance and rules, or is it part of the herd mentality that makes this necessary?

  If we did not have religions, would all people belong to some kind of gang or clan? Or would man have lived with more of a degree of 'separateness'?
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  WTWizard

  Absolutely no. The whole law extended morality beyond the natural guidelines.

  Here is the only necessary law: No individual or group shall initiate the use of force, threat of force, or fraud against another person or their property. If this is violated, force may be used against the offender in defending innocent people. To that law, nothing needs ever be added.
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  reniaa

  This is were you have to be very careful not to apply modern viewpoint to the past,

  When they open up an egyptian tomb and you find all the corpses of the workers and slaves because they put them to death with there masters, This is the culture moses drew the 3 million israelite slaves from, they were used to human sacrifice and hardship a wife and children starved to death if a husband abandoned them. The laws ment more then because they protected people more. All the tribes around then worshiped baal and suchlike Gods and high places were where the human sacrifices happenned, the tribes often killed each other but the ruthlessness was part of their survival tactics, a fertile land full of "Milk and Honey" were food could be easily grown after many years in a relentless desert was a thing of massive desire.
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  RAF

  (A) yeah we don't need rules to love, we just need to be sentitive to others as much are we are for ourselves.

  so in the bible that's what I read

  • one that JW supports as you have to listening to rules (OBEY) without thinking about why and when it is a good thing ... that's what's the God of the OT (immature) is asking for (as demonstration of what doesn't work because of the obvious reality = A) even overprotection from God doesn't help people to be sensitive enough to others
  • Which leads to the one the one is in charge (Christ) wich is cancelling rules for only one principle to adhere to (love others as yourself as your god = Balance in everything)
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  White Dove

  I'm with Reniaa with this up to a point.

  Those people back then were (according to the Bible) horrible to each other.

  They needed something to rein them in.

  I feel that the law code was excessive, though.
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  White Dove

  I don't actually believe that the Mosaic law existed when the Bible says it did.

  I don't believe the Bible stories are historically accurate.
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  cameo-d

  is the mosaic laws the earliest written laws found policy a large group of people with set consequences for hurting each other etc?

  The Seven Laws of Noah (Hebrew: ??? ????? ??? ??, Sheva mitzvot B'nei Noach), often referred to as the Noahide Laws, are a set of seven moral imperatives that, according to the Talmud, were given by God to Noah as a binding set of laws for all mankind. [1] According to Judaism any non-Jew who lives according to these laws is regarded as a Righteous Gentile and is assured of a place in the world to come (Olam Haba), the Jewish concept of heaven. [2] Adherents are often called "B'nei Noah" (Children of Noah) or "Noahides" and may often network in Jewish synagogues.

  The Noahide Laws were predated by six laws given to Adam in the Garden of Eden. [4] Later at the Revelation at Sinai the Seven Laws of Noah were regiven to humanity and embedded in the 613 Laws given to the Children of Israel along with the Ten Commandments, which are part of, and not separate from, the 613 mitzvot. These laws are mentioned in the Torah. According to Judaism, the 613 mitzvot or "commandments" given in the written Torah, as well as their reasonings in the oral Torah, were only issued to the Jews and are therefore only binding upon them, having inherited the obligation from their ancestors.

  The Talmud states that the instruction to not eat "flesh with the life" was given to Noah, and that Adam and Eve had already received six other commandments. Adam and Eve were not enjoined from eating from a living animal since they were forbidden to eat any animal. The remaining six are exegetically derived from a seemingly superfluous sentence in Gen 2:16 . [8]

  what? don't you read wiki?