Some GEMS from the 2001 ANNUAL MEETING

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  • tresdecu
    tresdecu

    Did a little time travel...I googled 'wt annual meeting' and this popped up from the freeminds site from 2001...

    right after the 9/11 attacks The GB was probably salavating at all the scare tactics they could use for the big A!

    In 2001 I was a semi-enthusiastic MS, awaiting my impending Eldership (now I am just a 'do as little as possible' MS waiting to step down.)

    Reading these notes now...I wonder what I would have thought of this back in 01 ??

    Here it is (copied from freeminds):

    Wonder if we'll get some detailed notes from the 08 meeting soon...hmmm

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    October 2001

    Pontiac Silverdome (Detroit). Because of security, doing a search of
    everyone invited, publishers invited are asked to bring ONLY a Bible,
    songbook and a notepad.

    ================================

    Interesting points from a talk given in Greensboro, NC by Brookyln, NY
    speaker this past weekend:

    1. Islam is now larger than Christendom. According to the 'Mankind Search
    for God' book, the inside map shows the amount of people in major religions.
    The numbers for the Islamic religion is now much larger. So all this time
    that we were looking at Christendom to be this large factor, it could very
    well be the Islamic groups instead. They are so large, and with all that has
    happened in the past three weeks, the religion has aggravated the King of
    the South and the Wild Beast. They will be looking for a way to rid
    themselves of a
    large group.

    2. We were urged to read Ezekiel 38 and 39.

    3. The end is rushing up to meet us. The signs are all there. After a
    disaster, people have all these feelings. When it reaches anger, that is
    when to watch around us. This is when action is likely to be taken.

    4. No neutrality or pacifism will be allowed by governments. They will
    insist we take a side, and when we don't, they can use this as an excuse to
    take action against us. We could be termed a 'dangerous sect.' We can look
    for all property owned by the Watchtower Society to be seized. Branches,
    land, farms, Kingdom Halls. They might use the excuse that they need the
    land to fund wars or something of that possessions. Money, property, things,
    will be meaningless to us. Only our heavenly treasures will have value. Some
    of us may have to find shelter with other Witnesses.

    5. We will have no legal rights to speak of. Going to court, the police,
    etc. Any rights gained by us to date will not exist.

    6. The Bible does not tell us how far things will go, only that we will wait
    on Jehovah to take action.

    7. The Kings of the North and South prophesies are coming true. They are
    very important to us, even though we don't know who the king of the north is
    yet. He also brought out that we don't understand everything yet, and may
    not have complete understanding before this all occurs.

    8. Gog of Magog is also important. He will be spewing his rage because of
    the Witnesses of Jehovah. He will do anything he can to destroy us. Daniel
    11:45.

    9. This will be worse than any war ever fought on earth before.

    Other scriptures mentioned in connection to these points: Eze 38:10, 13, 16,
    22; Isaiah 30:15; Zechariah 14: 12, 13

    10. No matter what happens to us during this time, we can take comfort that
    God is with us. Romans 8:31. There are more with us than are with them.
    Psalms 56:11, 118:16; 16:8. God will not save each and every one of his
    witnesses from death, but we have too much value to him for him to let us
    all be exterminated.

    11. Apostates are rampant, (Matthew 24:24 )waiting for a time when they can
    publicly denounce God's people. That doesn't mean they are not active now.
    They are publishing materials and speaking loudly. But it will get worse.
    And as Jesus and Paul pointed out, there will be traitors in the
    congregation. Probably more than we have thought there would be. Because of
    this we need to be cautious as serpents and gentle as doves. There will be
    no need for some to know everything, especially the government.

    12. Physical signs (Matthew 24:29). These will happen. The celestial signs
    will occur( i.e. sun darkened, moon not there), and in such a manner as to
    leave people in no doubt as to who is causing them. These will be in
    conjunction with his vengeance on those persecuting his people. Zephaniah
    1:17, 18. How can they hurt us if they have no eyes to see us? How can they
    pull a trigger if they have no arms? As Matthew 24 points out, (verses
    30-31) there will also be an angelic presence in the heavens- a visible one.
    He
    in the heavens, sword drawn, with the angels behind him. THESE SIGNS WILL
    TAKE PLACE.

    13. There will probably be a time when the preaching work will slow
    drastically. Our main focus may be on keeping alive and enduring.

  • tresdecu
    tresdecu

    how big of a loser am I, if I bump my own post up?

    bttt:-)

    L

  • BluesBrother
    BluesBrother
    11. Apostates are rampant, (Matthew 24:24 )waiting for a time when they can
    publicly denounce God's people. That doesn't mean they are not active now.
    They are publishing materials and speaking loudly. But it will get worse.

    That is the only part that is coming true. But they can thank the inter net for that..These are the paranoid delusions of a true cult. But didn't we used to love it...It was so exciting! and made us feel important!

  • sir82
    sir82
    God will not save each and every one of his
    witnesses from death, but we have too much value to him for him to let us
    all be exterminated.

    How comforting!

    I, personally, am apparently worth doodly-squat to God, but the collective I belong to will not entirely be exterminated before it serves its purpose.

    Gives me the warm-n-fuzzies!

  • sir82
    sir82
    The Kings of the North and South prophesies are coming true. They are
    very important to us, even though we don't know who the king of the north is
    yet.

    Wait...we don't know who the "king of the north" is, but we do know that the "prophecies are coming true"? How exactly does that work?

    And the funniest part is, the JWs will sit there with their tongues hanging out, and then spend the next week talking about how "deep" this point was.

    Something's deep, anyway...

  • Meeting Junkie No More
    Meeting Junkie No More

    "Interesting" points? Hardly.

    The other great descriptive word used by Witlesses is 'timely'. My problem is that this stuff has been reheated and reserved ad nauseum since at least the '70's that I can remember and has it ever been 'timely'?

    Thanks for the laugh.

    Oh, and edited to add: GEMS?!!!!! ha ha ha

  • tresdecu
    tresdecu

    It's funny how after reading the 2008 anal (oops I mean annual) meeting, that nothing changes...similar empty words that no body will even remember 8 years from now...in 2016!!!

    Thanks to fadingaway for posting that thread...always interesting to read this stuff.

  • FreeFallin
    FreeFallin

    11. Apostates are rampant, (Matthew 24:24 )waiting for a time when they can
    publicly denounce God's people. That doesn't mean they are not active now.
    They are publishing materials and speaking loudly. But it will get worse.
    And as Jesus and Paul pointed out, there will be traitors in the
    congregation. Probably more than we have thought there would be. Because of
    this we need to be cautious as serpents and gentle as doves. There will be
    no need for some to know everything, especially the government.

    Isn't this the exact same time that their association with the UN was made public.

    Bastards

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