A little bit taken from the Osho Darshan Diaries - a Rose is a Rose

by AK - Jeff 4 Replies latest jw friends

  • AK - Jeff
    AK - Jeff

    This bit of wisdom is worth consideration IMO - particularly in the case of those who have been deeply programmed by religion to think in the collective. Taken from;

    http://www.messagefrommasters.com/Beloved_Osho_Books/Darshan_Diaries/A_Rose_is_a_Rose_is_a_Rose.pdf

    But to begin with, feeling less guilty is very very important. The whole of humanity has been made

    to feel guilty – centuries of conditioning, of telling people to do this and not to do that... and not

    only that, but forcing them by saying that if they do something that is not allowed by the society or

    by the church, then they are sinners. If they do something which is appreciated by the society and

    the church, then they are saints.So everybody has been fooled into doing things that society wants

    them to do, and not to do things that society does not want them to do. Nobody has bothered about

    whether this is your thing or not. Nobody has bothered about the individual.

    The thinking up to now has been this – that the individual exists for the society so the individual has

    to follow just what the society says. He has to fit with the society. That is the definition of the normal

    human being – to fit with the society. Even if the society is insane, you have to fit with it; then you are

    normal. Even if the society is neurotic and you try to be sane, you will be thought neurotic because

    the society is the majority. They have power so they can make anybody feel guilty.

    They have put a deep mechanism inside you which they call a conscience which, if you move slightly

    away from the norm, the accepted rules of the game, immediately says, ’Wrong! Wrong! You are

    doing something wrong!’ Now the problem for the individual is that nature demands one thing and

    society demands something contrary. If the society was demanding the same as nature demands,

    there would have been no conflict. Man would still have remained in the garden of Eden.

    The problem arises because society has its own interests which are not necessarily in tune with the

    individual and his interests. Society has its own investments. The individual has to be sacrificed.

    This is a very topsy-turvy world. Just the other way round should be the right thing.

    The individual does not exist for the society. The society exists for the individual. Because society is

    just an institution. It has no soul. An individual has the soul, is the conscious centre; it has a centre.

    God resides in the individual, not in the society. Society is nothing – just a word.

    You cannot come across society anywhere. Wherever you go, you will come across the individual.

    Society is just in the dictionaries and in the legal codes of the courts. It is a term but a very big

    blanket term. It covers many things. And for this blanket term the real individual can be sacrificed –

    and he has been up to now.

    Jeff

  • AK - Jeff
    AK - Jeff

    Must be a dull subject I guess.

    Jeff

  • Satanus
    Satanus

    Osho said some cool things.

    S

  • lalliv01
    lalliv01

    The thinking up to now has been this – that the individual exists for the society so the individual has

    to follow just what the society says. He has to fit with the society. That is the definition of the normal

    human being – to fit with the society. Even if the society is insane, you have to fit with it; then you are

    normal. Even if the society is neurotic and you try to be sane, you will be thought neurotic because

    the society is the majority. They have power so they can make anybody feel guilty

    .

    People who subscribe to this type of thinking are people who believe in slavery--Their own enslavement-- sad.

    People should be free to pursue their own life, liberty and happiness; never initiating force against others nor permitting others to initiate force against them.

    Respectfully, lalliv01

  • AK - Jeff
    AK - Jeff
    People who subscribe to this type of thinking are people who believe in slavery--Their own enslavement-- sad.

    That is Osho's point - most people do subscribe to this thinking. Most just follow the masses, be in religiously, politically, or socially.

    It is sad. True

    Jeff

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