Why Not Let Your Partner Speak Out?

by Englishman 4 Replies latest jw friends

  • Englishman
    Englishman

    I've just had an idea. Eureka!

    Why don't those of us here who have non-dub partners, get them to write a short post on how they view the JW religion? They could say, for example, how your experience in the JW's affects them and also as to how their own viewpoints have been altered.

    I mentioned this to Her Ladyship a while back and she said OK she would do it, but she wasn't going to be the first off.

    It would just be a case of them using your screen-name, but stating straight away in the post that they were your partner. Sort of a "Hi this is Mitch borrowing Joelbears screen-name" type of thing.

    Could be very interesting!

    Englishman.

    Bring on the dancing girls!

  • OUTLAW
    OUTLAW

    Sounds like a good idea!Wish I could partcipate,but the dubs tore that part of my life up years ago...OUTLAW

  • myMichelle
    myMichelle

    I am the nonJW in my marriage.

    A short post huh? Well, okay, I'll try to be brief, but for those who know me will attest that's a feat on the level of parting the Red Sea.

    How it affects me/ our relationship
    As I have stated here on JWD before, my husband was raised in the Org, but left it as a teen, so by the time we met, religion was pretty much a non-issue. He attended the KH about as much as I attended my church, which was 3 or 4 times a year. I knew nothing of JW beliefs and he wasn't too forthcoming. For example, he mentioned going to my family holiday gatherings made him feel uncomfortable because in his religion they didn't celebrate Xmas and he was unused to the environment. However, he did go without production, fanfare or sermon.

    After we had been married over 5 years, he started to attend the KH, IMO because we had moved back to our hometown and it pleased his mom, plus when one has kids, it seems a search into spiritual matters occurs on a frequent basis. That's when I began to gradually learn what the WTS teaches.

    I gave the Org a try-out myself for several months, but came across counterview websites and was astounded by the volume of information I was not being told during my home "Bible" study. I reacted poorly and my hubby enmeshed himself further in the Org. Wasn't very healthy for the marriage, but it survived his baptism and our arguments over religion.

    Now he is fading away, and so are our disagreements over anything WT related. His JW family members are still gung-ho, and he can't seem to drop off the Elder's radar, so there are frustrations there. I suppose the situation is more edgy for him now, as I have a more "screw 'em" attitude and refuse to tiptoe around eggshells for them any longer.

    How I view the JW religion
    Well, now truthfully? I view the Org as arrogant, bigotted, high-control group and anyone willingly involved is negatively affected by their association.

    Some of the sweetest people you know may be JWs, but the go to meetings and hear week after week, year after year the horrible attitude toward nonJWs and other religions coming from the platform and read the same attitude in WT publications. They nod their heads in agreement, they applaude at the end of talks and they never publically question or disagree with the WT viewpoint. I cannot be convinced that the weekly indoctrination doesn't affect even the nicest of people on some level, and that I won't be treated diffently somehow because I am not part of their religious org.

    I especially resent the enforced shunning, without it members would be freer to decide for themselves what to accept and what not to. Without the enforced shunning, this Organization would not even be a factor in my marriage today.

    Well I rambled on enough, I could write more on the subject and well may later. Tell her Ladyship it's her turn, okay?

    Michelle

  • Mr Magoo
    Mr Magoo

    Hi' there,

    Well... I've never been religous in any way, but I must say that my experiences with JW's after having been married to one for three years (and still is) have made me even less religous.

    It has made me think a lot more over how mind control works. Over what drives people to do what they do, and why they ignore obvious faults, dissagreements etc.

    My wife is still a JW, and is not looking at "apostate" information - yet. She does not attend every meeting though, and is seldom out preaching.

    One day I'll present her with small issues to think about - haven't decided just how to do it yet. It must be done just the right way so that it gets her to think instead of reject the information.

    Ups, back to the topic.

    What I see when I look at all my new JW "friends" can be devided into 4 categories.

    1) Devout JW doing a lot of work in the religion, and quite happy about it.
    2) JW's strugling hard to do what is expected from them - but not at all happy about it.
    3) JW's doing just what they are asked to do, when they are asked to do it. And not really bothered with it. Still loyal to the org.
    3a) Same as 3 but they make their own rules, and don't feel that they have to report if they sin a little.
    4) Fed up and on there way outs.

    In the last three years I've seen (and known) and heard about several young witness couples getting divorced, mainly because of adultery. I've heard a LOT of gossip and rumors within "the walls". And this is really the most uncharming thing I've met in the org.
    I've also seen people strugling with bad consciences and getting stressed over that they don't do what is exepected by them.

    I've learned to "listen and nod" if something is discussed that I have a different opinion on - but don't want them to discover my agenda and stop talking.

    I'm not sure if this was what you where looking for Englishman..

    Take care
    Mr Magoo

  • Thirdson
    Thirdson

    This might be a good idea, I'll see what Mrs. Thirdson is willing to do.

    Thirdson

    'To avoid criticism, say nothing, do nothing, be nothing'

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