The End of the World

by purplesofa 6 Replies latest jw friends

  • purplesofa
    purplesofa

    I got this off a blog I suscribe to. Notice he mentions JW's

    The End of the World

    In the year 1514, Pope Leo IX wrote "I will not see the end of the world, nor will you my brethren, for its time is long in the future, 500 years hence."

    If my math is correct, the world, according to Leo IX, will end in the year 2014.

    Since the beginning of time, people possessed with a sense of pending doom and high certainty have predicted the end of the world. To my knowledge, it hasn’t happened yet.

    Near the end of the first millennium, many people in Europe predicted the end of the world would occur in the year 1000. As the date approached, Christian armies from southern Europe waged war against the pagan countries to the north in an attempt to convert them to Christianity, by force if necessary, before Christ returned in 1000. When Christ didn’t return, those who criticized the church were labeled as heretics and exterminated.

    In 1346, one-third of the population of Europe was killed by the black plague. Since this proportion seemed to correspond to Biblical prophecy, people presumed the end of the world was imminent. However, Christians had killed a majority of the cats in Europe at the time thinking the felines were associated with witches. Less cats, more rats. It was later discovered that fleas carried by rats caused the plague. The world didn’t end after all.

    On February 14, 1835, Joseph Smith, the founder of the Mormon Church, made a pronouncement at a meeting of church leaders that Jesus would return in 56 years. It didn’t happen.

    The Jehovah Witnesses claimed that the war of Armageddon would start in 1914, based on the prophecy of Daniel, Chapter 4. It didn’t happen. They subsequently revised their proclamations, many times, to 1915, 1918, 1920, 1925, 1941, 1975, 1994, etc. It didn’t happen, didn’t happen, didn’t happen, etc.

    Seismographer Albert Porta of Italy concluded that the conjunction of six planets on December 17, 1919, would generate a magnetic current causing the sun to explode and engulf the earth. It didn’t happen.

    The founder of the Worldwide Church of God, Herbert W. Armstrong, predicted that the “Day of the Lord” would occur in 1936. It didn’t happen. Undeterred, he later predicted it would happen in 1975 instead. Many of his followers gave up all their earthly possessions in anticipation of the Rapture. It didn’t happen.

    Edgar Cayce, known as the sleeping prophet of Virginia Beach, warned his followers in 1942 that the earth would shift magnetic poles in the year 2000 and cause lethal worldwide catastrophes. It didn’t happen.

    David Davidson wrote a book titled THE GREAT PYRAMID, ITS DIVINE MESSAGE where he claimed the structure of the pyramid of Gizah foretold future events, including the end of the world in August of 1953. It didn’t happen.

    In 1974, astronomers John Gribben and Stephen Plagemann announced that multiple planets would line up on the same side of the sun in 1982, creating deadly global events. The planets lined up but nothing happened.

    In 1978, Pat Robertson of the 700 Club announced that the world would end in 1982. It didn’t happen.

    Hal Lindsey, writer of Christian prophecy, wrote a book in 1970 titled THE LATE, GREAT PLANET EARTH where he claimed the Rapture would commence in 1988 (40 years after the creation of the state of Israel). It didn’t happen.

    Edgar Whisenaut, a NASA scientist wrote 88 REASONS WHY THE RAPTURE WILL OCCUR IN 1988. It didn’t happen.

    As we approached 2000, the year of the deadly Y2K bug, many people were convinced the end of the world was imminent. They built underground shelters and hunkered down. They hunkered for naught.

    In September of 2008, Councilor Keith Martin and scores of scientists claimed that the large Hadron Collider built under France and Switzerland would cause the end of the world. The first trial of the collider took place on September 10, 2008. The end of the world didn't happen.

    Other end-of-world predictions: St. Clement -- 90, Hilary of Poitiers – 365, St Martin of Tours – 375, Hippolytus – 500, German Emperor Otto III – 968, Gerard of Poehide – 1147, Joachim of Fiore – 1205, Pope Innocent III – 1284, Benjamin Keach – 1689, Charles Wesley – 1794, Margaret McDonald – 1830, William Miller – 1843, Piazzi Smyth – 1960, Charles Meade – 1974, Lester Sumrall – 1987, Peter Ruckman – 1990, etc., etc.

    Prophecy is a tricky business. Having certain knowledge of future events is a lot like purchasing a lottery ticket and making plans on how to spend the winnings. You don’t know you’re a loser until after the drawing.

    My prediction made in June of 1972 – the world would end the day I received my first real check from my first post-college job where I was making a decent chunk of money. It didn't happen. I was doomed to continue working and working and working, subconsciously yearning for the end of the world so I could escape the Treadmill of the Rat Race.

    There are no passengers on Spaceship Earth. We're all crew and we'll all go down with the ship.

    On December 21, 2012, I will be hosting an "End of the World" party at my place. Bring snacks.

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    Quote for the Day – "You must not change one thing, one pebble, one grain of sand, until you know what good and evil will follow on that act. The world is in balance, in Equilibrium. To light a candle is to cast a shadow." Ursula K. Le Guin

  • stillajwexelder
    stillajwexelder

    I can recommend the book "A History of the End of the World" by Kirsch

  • abbagail
    abbagail

    "And, Lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age." (Mat. 28:20)

    There is an "end of the age," and it is the end of the "age of the Gentiles" (WT muddles that fact by translating Gentiles as "nations" in the NWT, so it's definitely not as "crystal clear" in the minds of JWs).

    "25 For I do not desire, brethren, that you should be ignorant of this mystery, lest you should be wise in your own opinion, that blindness in part has happened to Israel **Until** the fullness of the Gentiles has come in. 26 And so all Israel will be saved, as it is written: "The Deliverer will come out of Zion, And He will turn away ungodliness from Jacob; 27 For this [is] My covenant with them, When I take away their sins." 28 Concerning the gospel [they are] enemies for your sake, but concerning the election [they are] beloved for the sake of the fathers. 29 For the gifts and the calling of God [are] irrevocable. 30 For as you were once disobedient to God, yet have now obtained mercy through their disobedience, 31 even so these also have now been disobedient, that through the mercy shown you they also may obtain mercy. 32 For God has committed them all to disobedience, that He might have mercy on all." - Romans 11

    That is basically the total summation of the "last age" which began when Israel was disobedient to the gospel, which then opened the way for the Gentiles. And when the fullness of the Gentiles have come in, God then turns His attention back to Israel as a nation. Therein lies the beginning of the final end times events.

    When might that be? We cannot pinpoint the exact date, but "exact events" give us a clue as to the closeness, one big one being that Israel became a nation again (while still "blinded" as Romans 11 says) for the first time in approx. 2,500 years in 1948.

    Israel is also compared to a fig tree several times throughout the OT and NT, so when Jesus said that when we see the "fig tree blossom we know summer is near," and that it would be that particular generation who will not pass away until all things occur. (Matt. 24:32-35).

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    As a side note, I've always wondered how many "lunar years" have elapsed since Jesus died/Paul's conversion/missionary tours to the Gentiles, etc. So for my own curiosity, I'm going to play with some numbers in a very very very unsophisticated way (since a mathematician I am not):

    2009 solar years since A.D. began

    But Jesus died in/around 29 AD (?)

    So subtract 29 solar years from our current 2009 = 1,980 years x 365 days per year in a solar year = 722,700 days.

    A lunar year has 354 days approx., or approx. 11 days less than a solar year. So take 1,980 years x 11 days = 21,780 lunar days.

    So subtract 21,780 lunar days from 722,700 solar days = 700,920 solar days, and divide that by 365 solar days for a solar year = 1,920 lunar years since Jesus died.

    For my little "experiment," that means (very loosely) that God has allotted, to date, approx. 1,920 lunar years (so far) for the fullness of the Gentiles to come in.

    Since most of us always round it off to an even 2,000 years since Jesus was born (A.D. began), it is more like 1,920 LUNAR years since He died (using God's time cycle/lunar years). And if we add another 12 years or so until Paul was converted (approx. 37-38 AD after which he spent 3 years in Arabia), that brings us up to 1,932 lunar years that the way has been held wide upon for the Gentiles to come in by Faith Alone (gospel of Grace and not by works as Israel was expected to do).

    The reason I wondered this in the first place is because I think the Lord devoted approx. 1,500 years solely to Israel as a nation (?), so I wondered how long He might have in mind for allowing the Gentiles to come in. And if my very loose-as-a-goose lunar-year calculations are anywhere near reality, that means He has given the "mostly-Gentile Church Age" more time than He did Israel...

    ...Except Israel does get seven more years (one more week) of His sole "devotion" during their "Time of Jacob's Trouble" (Jer. 30:7), ie, the Tribulation.

    Don't mind me, I'm just talking and figuring out loud to myself.

    Even so, He IS coming again...

    "I will not leave you orphans; I will come to you." - John 14:18

    "In My Father's house are many mansions; if [it were] not [so,] I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself; that where I am, [there] you may be also." - John 14:2,3

    "You have heard Me say to you, 'I am going away and coming [back] to you. ' " - John 14:28

    HarpSmiley

  • jaguarbass
    jaguarbass

    I'm going to order the "A history of the end of the world"

    I will have quite a collection of books explaining all the conspiracies.

    Then maybe I will write my own book. I will have all the foot notes and references.

    I see 2 possibilities. Evolution with no God.

    And Alien engineering.

    The Alien engineering has the most support and documentation to my eye.

    REgardless of when the world is going to end or if it is going to end,

    You should live everyday as though it may be your last.

    You should enjoy yourself everyday.

    Plan on living to be 100 but be prepared to die tomorrow.

  • Mrs. Fiorini
    Mrs. Fiorini

    I was out of the WT in 1994. What prediction of the end came then? And in what context?

  • purplesofa
    purplesofa

    Mrs Fiorini,

    The guy that posted that blog is not a JW. I was going to write him and ask him where he got his info. I thought might be interesting. Maybe he is ex-JW,

    purps

  • Mrs. Fiorini
    Mrs. Fiorini

    purps,

    Thanks.

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