God=bad; Lucifer=good?

by cameo-d 7 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • cameo-d
    cameo-d

    The god of the old testament seems a rather despicable character.

    Some schools of thought play on this to prove Lucifer as the "good guy".

    How do you respond to this...

    Eve was offered knowledge....she chose knowledge....and was punished for it.

    God withheld knowledge purposely, yet Satan was "compassionate and wanted these creatures to know the 'truth'."

    Light is symbolic for knowledge and wisdom. Lucifer is credited with being the light bringer.

    Did satan feed Adam and Eve knowledge they were never meant to have?

    Did Lucifer cause a genetic manipulatation in the offer of knowledge?

    Were humans originally created to be slaves? And to serve what purpose?

    If you made a Benjamin Franklin list of god's good points and bad points...which list would be longer?

    So how do you respond...God=bad; Lucifer=good?

  • WTWizard
    WTWizard

    Humans were created to do a job, not to enjoy anything or get a reward. That job was to spread religion across the world, that would stifle people from happiness. Satan, on the other hand, wanted mankind to enjoy freedom and happiness. That has not changed.

    Hey, if God is going to keep me around solely to do His dirty work and not to enjoy life, I am worshiping the Devil and bashing that Almighty Lowlife Scumbag.

  • Awakened at Gilead
    Awakened at Gilead

    Do some research on Zoroastrianism... Ahura Mazda, etc...

  • Elsewhere
    Elsewhere

    This is something I have wondered about a lot. It seems like the god the the bible is the one doing all sorts of horrible things to people.

    Just stop and ask one simple question: What harmful thing did satan ever do to people in the bible?

    How many people did god kill and how many did satan kill?

  • Homerovah the Almighty
    Homerovah the Almighty

    Another good resource that displays and offers information on the most loving and just God of the bible and the one that a billion or more people

    will be worshiping this Sunday. http://www.evilbible.com/

  • cameo-d
    cameo-d

    "It seems like the god the the bible is the one doing all sorts of horrible things to people. "

    Then that would mean this god is not good.

    Since we have already been told so many times that Satan is wicked and that he is the god of this world...then wouldn't the OT more likely be a record of his actions?

    And since we are told he is sly, and crafty, and could almost deceive everyone, then would it not stand to reason that this same entity could be a Jekyll and Hyde?

    Is it possible that this entity is applying psychology of dualism in guiding people away from his vengeful, jealous nature by camoflaging himself, possibly coming forth as a Lightbearer when the situation necessitates it?

    Why do we even continue to accept this monotheistic view? Even the scriptures tell us that there was more than one god. The Jews were not actually monotheistic. They were henotheistic. They knew there were other gods and they accepted that. But they chose to accept one of them.

    Who were these other gods? Were these the ones who called themselves the Sons of God?

    Could it be that because too many have seen (and finally been able to openly discuss) the inconsistencies and fallacies of scripture and doctrines that held us in control, that this new plan is necessary in order to gain back the control of the masses?

    Is this planned New System/NWO, the coming forth of the demons who portray themselves as the Sons of God, the Sons of Light...has this been plan B to reveal themselves now as "the good guys" in order to destroy mankind?

    You know they will have a good line of BS to deceive humans. Perhaps they will suggest they are here to take us into the next quantum leap. Of course they do take credit giving us the quantum leap from hominids (pre-Adamic man). They have genetically manipulated us.

    Even Jesus mentioned a transformation that was coming. But he never said whether it was a good thing or a bad thing. That, you will have to deduce on your own.

    If there is any indication in myths, have these sons of god not always been greedy, manipulative, power-hungry and deceitful? Have they not always fought and bickered among themselves? Are they to be role models now?

    Here is an interesting excerpt:

    This lore begins with a heresy, known as Kabbalah, which disguises itself as Jewish, but is a pact to seek world domination, and the eradication of religion in favour of the worship of Lucifer.

    The Illuminati claim to be descended of Fallen Angels, who taught them the “Ancient Wisdom”, also known as the Kabbalah, which they have been preserving throughout the centuries. These Fallen Angels are referred to in the Bible, Book of Genesis, as the Nephilim, or “Sons of God”, and were said to have descended to earth and intermarried with human beings. Christian interpretations struggle with the passage, choosing to translate the term into “mighty men”. However, apocryphal Jewish texts explain that they were the devil and his legions, who were cast out of Heaven, and took wives from the female descendants of Cain. They produced a race known as the Anakim.

    The race produced by the intermixing of the Fallen Angels and humans is thought to be the Aryans.

    Basically, the ancient pagans’ belief was dualistic. They believed there to be two powers in Heaven, a good God and evil one.

    According to Kabbalistic interpretation, the entire line of Jewish kings were descended from Joseph's son Judah, and Tamar, his daughter-in-law, a Canaanite woman who had disguised herself as a prostitute in order to seduce him. Their son Perez was David’s ancestor. Solomon, to whom much of Kabbalistic tradition is attributed, was the son of David from Bathsheba, a Hittite woman. Therefore, according to Kabbalistic interpretation, though the Messiah is to be a descendant of the royal line of David, being the “Son of David”, he is also descended from the Satanic lineage of the Fallen Angels, through the Canaanites.

    Therefore, through intermarriage with the Canaanites, the later Kabbalists could claim descent from the Anakim, and the Fallen Angels, or Lucifer and his legions. These Anakim, supposedly, were the original inhabitants of Atlantis, or Aryans. The Aryans are considered by the Illuminati to be the original core bloodline, a hybrid of humans and “divine” beings, responsible for the preservation of occult knowledge.

  • cameo-d
    cameo-d

    If you choose Luciferian doctrine.....

    that Lucifer (portrayed as Promethus, taking the knowledge of heaven and bringing it to enlighten mankind)

    or, if you choose God doctrine....

    that Jehovah is good, fair, just, omnipotent...although a bloody "god of armies" and in old times requiring a blood sacrifice...

    then where does Jesus fit into all of this?

  • kurtbethel
    kurtbethel

    Good cop, bad cop routine. Political parties emulate that model.

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