More Ambiguous predictions

by restrangled 7 Replies latest jw friends

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  restrangled

  I was informed 2 days ago according to the latest Watchtower or Awake, that women who have lost babies invitro....might have them resurrected in the new order....I have not seen the article.

  Because god saw Esau and Issac in the womb and recognized their personalities before they were born.

  Nothing is promised but, because of this, lost babies due to miscarriages women might see thier lost children resurrected: but they really can't say.

  What the hell? Do they ever stop trying to hold out carrots to those in the worst possible pain. I find this the most ridiculous, BULL SHIT ever.

  Stop....stop predicting what you do not know, stop, claiming you are prophets, and for dead babies never born no less. Holding out hope for mothers who are in the worst pain, telling them yes, no, yes, no, and maybe. For shame!
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  Quandry

  Yes, isn't it irritating? Why can't they ever just say "We don't know?"

  The Bible really says very little about people after death. How could they know? They use expressions like "it seems that," or "it is apparent that."

  This harks back to the resurrection of the people of Sodom and Gomorrah. Yes, they will, no they won't, yes they will come back in the resurrection.

  If all babies that died before birth come back, what of all those aborted-that would be in the millions. The woman recently in the news who has eight new babies would be small potatoes then. Each dub woman in the "new system" would have to take about fifteen or twenty at a time!!!
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  restrangled

  Quandry you asked:

  Yes, isn't it irritating? Why can't they ever just say "We don't know?"

  How about they never broach the subjects they "don't know" about and quit giving false hope. The nerve of these writers is incredible! How they dare print such material!

  Have they not learned from previous predictions that none of what they have to say for the future comes to fruition? Their older masses have learned many times over, but apparently not the new converts or the old farts in Bethel.

  The nerve of these morons.

  r.
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  parakeet

  Restrangled: "Holding out hope for mothers who are in the worst pain, telling them yes, no, yes, no, and maybe. For shame!"

  I suffered two miscarriages while still a dub. I don't remember what the WTS ruling was at the time. It was painful enough just to go through the miscarriages. They did, however, frown on my decision to take Rhogam (derived from blood. I am Rh-negative).

  Rhogam prevents birth defects in future children who are Rh-positive. I took it, despite vicious remarks made to me at the KH. And this was during a "yes" period when the WT said blood derivatives were a matter of conscience. I later had a son, Rh-positive, normal in every way.

  And the Rh-negative "sister" who hissed at me that I was "taking blood" later had a daughter who was borderline retarded.

  The WTS likes to play fast and loose with women's and children's lives.
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  jaguarbass

  New recruits are hard to come by.

  They really have to stretch, work and lie to get one.

  Lies make the world go round.
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  civicsi00

  Anyone ever wonder what would happen if the WT stopped using words like "evidently", "it seems", "apparently"...?
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  WTWizard

  They are demanding that people stake their lives on these claims. They are banning people from doing outside research on these claims. And yet they have such strong terms of uncertainty.

  When I make a claim I cannot back up, I expect others to independently research things and post any corrections. If I am wrong and people do that, then both of us (and anyone else watching these forums) can know the real truth. When the Washtowel Slaveholdery makes those same claims, they expect people to just take their damn word for it, refrain from looking it up in outside sources, and everyone has to believe what could well be a lie.

  To the best of my knowledge, there is no supernatural resurrection for aborted and miscarried fetuses. And that is stable (however, subject to independent research to confirm or deny). Science could well render the term "There is no hope for a resurrection of unborn babies that die or are aborted" a lie; at which point people could go into the clinic and have their lost babies gained back, perfect and without any of the birth defects that they may have been born with the first time. Until that happens, I am not going to hold out any hope.

  Better to not hold out any hope and later be proven wrong, than to hold out false hope with strings and ropes (and chains) attached.
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  BabaYaga

  WTWizard said: They are demanding that people stake their lives on these claims. They are banning people from doing outside research on these claims. And yet they have such strong terms of uncertainty.

  Touche'.