How did Satan get to be the God of "this system of things"?

by truthseeker 4 Replies latest jw friends

  • truthseeker
    truthseeker

    Jesus said that Satan is the God of this system of things.

    Assuming Satan became God then, he has been ruling for almost 2,000 years.

    We have been under his influence and power for 2,000 years.

    Why was this allowed to happen and for what purpose?

    If humans need time to see if they can rule themselves, surely this is invalidated with an evil deity?

    Paul said that we have a wrestling with wicked spirits - doesn't this change what would be a fair test for humankind to rule themselves without interference?

    It sometimes seems that we were set up to fail

  • jaguarbass
    jaguarbass

    Read the 12th planet by zechariah sitchin. Then you will see that Satin is the God of

    this world and this system because he made us. He is the god and designer of

    the Slave humans that live on earth.

  • xjwtruth4you
    xjwtruth4you

    Below is an interesting excerpt from the book: “Where Else But Pittsburgh!”

    It's a book written by George Swetnam, an ordained
    Presbyterian minister, who wrote for years for the Pittsburgh Press
    newspaper, and is regarded as the foremost historian of the
    Pittsburgh and Western Pennsylvania areas.
    _____

    "It is an amazing thing that no Pittsburgh history has ever
    even so much as contained the name of C.T. Russell, since his
    influence has easily been the widest of any man who ever lived in a
    city...including Andrew Carnegie.

    "He was a pioneer in the Chain store, the Motion Picture
    industry and other important ventures. He was one of the most
    prolific and widely read authors of his day, turning out many books
    and a column carried by more than 1500 newspapers, with some 15
    million readers. Russell traveled over a million miles, delivering
    more than 30,000 sermons and lectures.

    "He was always interested in religion, writing Bible verses
    on the sidewalks with chalk when a youth. As a boy he was quick &
    alert, so his father took him into partnership in his general store
    at the age of 11. When he was 15 he was sent out as a buyer.

    "Like many other youths Charles was troubled in mind. He
    battled over the doctrine of predestination and was pondering these
    things for while he was unable to accept religion he was unable to
    let it go. It was a successful but skeptical businessman of 18 that
    he stepped into a dingy basement to see if a handful who met there
    had anything more sensible than the creeds of the churches. What he
    heard set him searching the Bible again, which he did for 46 years!

    "Soon he rented a hall & started a Bible School where for 5
    years he lectured. Then, convinced he had a divine mission, he did a
    strange thing for a young man of 26 with no formal theological
    education. He invited ALL the ministers of Pittsburgh to a meeting,
    explained his beliefs and urged them to unite with him! The fact that
    they accepted his invitation shows how high young Russell stood in
    the community. Yet after hearing they declined his offers.

    "Rebuffed by the ministers in his home town Russell turned
    himself to a life of evangelism. He carried on his haberdashery
    business for some time but his interest in commerce gradually waned
    and he closed his store for the next year.

    "Russell was nearly 6 feet tall, well built, with piercing
    gray eyes. His manner was always CALM, stressing argument rather than
    emotion, sometimes adding a touch of humor. In later life he was
    snowy haired, white bearded, and saintly in appearance.

    "In 1914 he completed work on the first epic motion
    picture: "The Photo Drama of Creation" 15 years before any other
    sound pictures were produced. It ran for eight hours and was viewed
    by some eight million people!

    "Late in life he set up his entire fortune, by now
    amounting to well over a million dollars, into a trust fund for the
    W.T.B.& T Society, the business organization for Jehovah's Witnesses.


    "He made many close friends and bitter enemies. He was the
    target of many stories accusing him of all sorts of crimes and wrong
    doing in regard to his marriage, although there appears to be little
    if any basis for such charges.

    "All through his life Russell told his followers NOT to
    revere him; He taught them this so well that the publishing house he
    founded has never published a biography of "Pastor Russell".

    "The movement he founded now has worldwide scope & is still
    one of the world's fastest growing religions. In 1958 some 250,000
    came to NYC to hear the same doctrines Russell preached to the
    unreceptive clergy 80 years earlier".

  • Borgia
    Borgia

    If humans need time to see if they can rule themselves, surely this is invalidated with an evil deity?

    I'm not sure so I can accept this hypothesis, Truthseeker. Genesis 11 shows that the idea of the chance humans ruling themselves is not applicable since. The reason the languages got confused is that men would not accomplish evrything they had in mind............

    The gods were frightened by their own creation.....so to speak. Instead let's focus on the consequences since: division along lingual, tribal, religious, national lines. All the bloodshed is a direct result of this. All the difficulty in understanding (check out the costs connected to translation in UN, EU and other forums) is a direct result. Yes, the gods really wanted to give humans the chance to rule themselves.

    But if humankind is about to succeed.....the gods get frightened..........If Satan was the God of this system of things........he would have succeeded in uniting people against the one true deity. But what we see is the division, bloodshed and other disgusts as a direct result of an act of the one true god. .....

    I'm not the first one to suggest that the roles in the bible are turned around.........The one true god is the demiurg........

    Cheers

    Borgia

  • WTWizard
    WTWizard

    I think humans need time to rule themselves without God's interference. It seems that every time a country gets on a good footing, God disrupts it--I have not seen any countries where the laws are pure and corruption-proof (and a strong "No initiatory force, threat of force, or fraud" clause within the constitution with no exceptions allowed would render such law corruption-proof), and that Almighty Lowlife Scumbag hasn't stuck His ugly foot into the picture to destroy it. Either He uses outside forces to destroy it, or He causes the originators of the constitution to "forget(??)" the "No initiatory force, threat of force, or fraud" clause. Either way, it fails because of that Almighty Sore Loser.

    No, Satan is not the wicked one--if Satan was wicked and had less power than God, then why is it that the bad governments seem to last for ages and dominate, while the good ones are trashed?

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