good analogy

by jam 7 Replies latest watchtower bible

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  jam

  Iam sure many of you here have heard this comment when you were a JW..Is this a good analogy to prove

  creationism? If you have a automobile that have not been assemble how long will it take without any

  human aid before it becomes a car, if you threw parts of a phone in a hat and you were able to shake

  this hat for years how long will it take before it,s a useable phone, The point is, considering how impossible

  it would be before parts of car and parts of a phone come togather without the assistance of man, so like wise

  with the complexity of the humam body , there is a maker.
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  cameo-d

  Yes, there is a Maker.

  And in the meanwhile a war broke out in heaven.

  The angel/aliens began to mate with women. Even after the flood it continued. So now we all have alien DNA.

  Some bloodlines have a stronger alien DNA factor than others and they interbreed to keep it that way.

  Mankind was created; however these angel aliens have modified us, and so evolution is also true.

  The mixture of alien DNA with humans caused a quantum leap. That is your "missing link".
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  aligot ripounsous

  I agree with creationists at least on one point, intelligent design. ID doesn't have to express itself through literal creation though. As a matter of fact, when one tries to figure out how dinosaurs came to existence, what is more plausible, a full size dino surging from the ground (because if the first man was created out of the soil, dinos had too, hadn't they), or God causing a small mutation in the embryo of an animal the parents of which were not quite dinos yet, but that would be close enough in appearance to its mother so that she would still recognize it as her cub and would look after it as such ? In that way new species could have appeared, sort of evolution directed by God himself. That Hypothesis would explain the design, which to many is just evident, and would spare us the indigestible practical aspects of literal creation.
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  streets76

  Ummm...so who created your creator?
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  cameo-d

  Ummm...so who created your creator?

  That's headache material.
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  pallemar

  creatism is only talking about the middle of things. never the start of allthings.

  becourse in the begining here was nothing, and nothing create anything else. and how can a sentient being star at the beginning of everything?

  maybe he came from another world, but what will only move the beginning of everything to another dimention. and we woulde end up with the same problem again.

  personaly, i dont belive in the beginning of the universe, i think it have allwayes been here.

  the temperature of the univers is only a exprestion of how long time it have been since a big bang acure in our center of the universe.

  if god eksist he woulde have to be some kind of fate. and a kruel one, to have created evolution. he he
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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  Ummm...so who created your creator?

  That, of course, is when the creationists start in with all sorts of esoteric nonsense about how it is a divine mystery that we mortals can't understand... yeah right. They criticize the evolutionists for not having iron-clad explanations for everything, yet the creationists can't really explain how everything started either.

  Supposing you accept the Biblical creation account as literal, the next problem becomes Noah's ark. There is no way that one could accept the Noachian flood account as literal and say that evolution is impossible. Sure, if you only look in generalities and with the view of Hebrew nomads living thousands of years ago, the story seems valid. But with the world view today and the understanding of genetics, the story is impossible to accept as a global event. It's easy enough to simply say that Noah took two bears on the ark. And the Bible mentions bears in Israel a few times. But the variety of bears in existance today are vastly different in location and diet. It would take many thousands of years of EVOLUTION for two bears to produce the Chinese Giant Panda that feeds almost exclusively on bamboo... and the Polar bear that eats seals and marine animals... and the asian Sloth Bear that mostly eats ants and termites. Really, there are eight different species of bears living today. So, Noah would have had to bring aboard at least 8 pairs of bears. Plus 20 pounds of bamboo shoots per day for each panda, a few seals for the polar bears, some termites for the Sloth Bears, and a variety of plants and animals to feed the other species. Then, once they got out of the ark, Noah would have made another boat to get the Polar Bears to the Arctic Circle, the Pandas to China, and the other bears elsewhere. Oh, and the Koala isn't a member of the bear family, so Noah would have had to take a pair of those in and then deliver them to eastern and southern Australia. Of course, Australia is absolutely fatal to the notion of a global flood. How could there have been kangaroos on the ark that set down in Turkey, yet there is no evidence of any kangaroo fossils in the region? Did the kangaroo pair jump from Turkey to Australia and not touch down anywhere in between?

  So, if the Genesis account of the global flood can be easily disproven, is it practical to put faith in the Genesis account of universal creation?

  I think the aliens will return one day and provide an explanation for everything... that's my THEORY.

  B the X
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  viva

  Ummm...so who created your creator?

  Reminds me of: Can't understand science? Try religion.

  If you can't fathom how simple life began, just pawn it off on an infinately complex spiritual being, and don't worry about how it began.