When did you realize the Watchtower was beyond reform?

by truthseeker 7 Replies latest jw friends

  • truthseeker
    truthseeker

    A few years ago I held out hope, that if I was patient and waited on Jehovah, he would correct things in his due time.

    There was still a part of me that wanted to believe it was the truth - it was still part of my comfort zone, after all I was raised in the truth from infancy.

    I took heart that people wanted to reform the organization rather than plot or wish its downfall.

    Websites such as http://www.jwreform.org/ and heart felt open letters written by those who wanted something better gave me hope that if enough people got together, real change might actually happen.

    As time passes, and new discoveries are made concerning the untruths that the Watchtower Society has sold and promoted to us, it become evident that there is no possibility of reform - real reform, from a totalitarian spiritual government to a first century model of Christianity.

    Tomorrow, activists from around the world will march in London at the G20 summit. The word is that the G20 group of finance ministers will not bring anything new to the forum, but will simpy discuss ways of trying to prop up the old financial order.

    And so it is with the Watchtower Organization - there have been protests, letters written to the Governing Body, marches on Bethel, TV documentaries on the JW child abuse problem, but what has really changed for the better?

    The society is reactionary - it prefers the old system of doing things because it works for them. Their attitude is screw the publishers - after all, they just see them as mere commodities to spread their message.

    The Watchtower is beyond reform and like the old financial system it must go. It serves no other purpose than to forcible enslave millions of unsuspecting JWs to their commerical brand of religion.

  • Scarred for life
    Scarred for life

    I never thought the WTBS had any hope of reform. I hated the WBTS when I left. And I still do.

  • leavingwt
    leavingwt

    I realized this after five or six chapters of Crisis of Conscience.

  • Chalam
    Chalam

    Hi,

    Of course, the assumption was the WT is God's organisation which of course it isn't.

    The WT will likely only change significantly if it starts to go into serious decline. Why change what is "working", even if it has flaws.

    Even if it crumbles, there will be other "watchtowers" emerge to take its place and as it is, there are plenty of alternatives out there to enslave the unsuspecting.

    With the uncertainty which lies ahead there is the real possibility that JW membership could thrive. The WT have already started their internet counter-strike and propaganda/disinformation play to stem the losses and look for new recruits.

    Throughout world history, we have been waiting for the reform to sort the problems. Looks like we aren't going to do it by ourselves, we have surely had long enough trying?

    Looking forward to the day when the WT is gone, so too it the old financial system and slavery is abolished for good :)

    All the best,

    Stephen

  • metatron
    metatron

    Why are they incapable of reform? One simple fact: if they ever admit that they were wrong, then they have sent countless people - particularily children - to their deaths, for nothing.

    That's the blood transfusion issue and it has corrupted any chance of reform. Keep in mind that they attempted to quietly change the blood issue a few years ago and then reversed course, likely because lawyers and truly evil people like Jarasz prevented it.

    They can never admit they were wrong.

    metatron

  • shamus100
    shamus100

    When I realized that Jehovahs Witnesses were full of shit. That's when I left.

    You're either spirit directed or you're not. They are not spirit directed. They are directed by men that think they are.

  • KAYTEE
    KAYTEE

    The U.N. did it for the wife and me, Ray’s two books sealed it for my wife.

    All the other revelations, (Paedophiles, Blood U-turn, failed prophecies, etc.) all seamed to come together at the same time.

    By then we had already spent 30years with the B#########

    KT

  • yadda yadda 2
    yadda yadda 2

    The Watchtower religion is reforming (as in changing) but only in a reactionary way, incrementally, and so far not for the better.

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