Is "Pay for Pray" ahead for the WBTS?

by The Berean 8 Replies latest jw friends

  • The Berean
    The Berean

    C T Russell was an accomplished businessman before his time as a religious activist. By age 12 he had begun negotiating contracts and soon was a managing partner in his father's five haberdashery and clothing stores in Pennsyvania. He would eventually sell the business and with the proceeds form a publishing corporation for the distribution of Bible-based literature.

    Yet, Russell's greatest accomplishment was the pyramid structure of financial support he fashioned which has lasted far beyond his lifetime. Consider, even the original Apostles could not posthumously keep "The Way" functioning after John's death.

    Russells technique was textbook: it amounted to low profit and the mass marketing of a product that everyone wanted ... health and life. Just as in ancient times, the building of such a pyramid required the sacrifice of souls, crushed under each advance and replaced by a new flock of sheep being brought to slaughter. Therefore recruitment and mortality was required for longevity.

    Today, the edifice is in decay. The world has changed to improving life as it is rather than hanging one's hat on some hope of eternal bliss The glue that has held it all together for over a century has been a little money from an increasing number of contributors. Evidence now suggests that some are no longer forwarding this "chain letter" of hope.

    Here are possible reasons that "tithing" is likely on the way for the "faithful":

    1) The WBTS was built by distributing the printed page The demand of bound books and magazines is no longer a major player in our world. Result: Cash flow has been reduced for the WBTS.

    2) Door-to-door sales has become the least effective way to reach the public. Result: less and less direct marketing is occurring ... limiting potential new membership and contributions.

    3) The cost of transportation has never been higher per mile. Result: The more money used to travel in the ministry, the less available for the contribution box.

    4) Russell's plan was launched in lands where the standard of living was higher such as the good old USA. Today's growth in the organization is coming from poor third world countries. Result: A greater number of members have little which to give and are actually costing the WBTS to provide services for these needy.

    5) The modern Witness now realizes that they will likely live out their "golden years" in this system of things. 1975 did'nt end it all ... this generation did pass away ... more of the annointed keep popping up ... Result: the freinds are holding back some of their assets to finance tomorrow.

    6) Many JWs have chosen not to have children. Result: Growth inevitably comes from within. Consider the fate of the Shakers.

    In summary, Though Russell has had a good run, he built a business model that was temporary. It required a carrot on a stick at all times. There is little new under the sun at the WBTS. The new proto-type for the organization will require an obligation for all members to financially support the slave's quarters or it itself will become the ultimate "fader."

  • Mickey mouse
    Mickey mouse

    I agree. I give it ten years max. I also think it's a good way to clear out the seat warmers. If people have to pay part of their wage to the borg, they won't do it if they're mentally out.

  • BonaFide
    BonaFide

    I remember while I was in my assignment in South America the branch coordinator told me that they receive thousands each month from Bethel in New York for branch operation, KH building, etc. He said there is no way the local brothers could pay for everything. However, the branch owned the Kingdom Halls.

    BF

  • Scott77
    Scott77

    6) Many JWs have chosen not to have children. Result: Growth inevitably comes from within. Consider the fate of the Shakers(The Berean ).

    Looks like an insightful posting. However, I respectful disagree with # 6 above. If "m any JWs have chosen not to have children"... how can then "growth inevitably comes from within"?

    Scott77

  • yknot
    yknot

    Assemblies are the big money makers these days....... I think we will see an assembly each quarter first.

    Direct tithing however holds a pitfall of local Elders wanting a share like a priest or pastor. Not to mention many generational JWs proudly still point out that no plate is passed.. (um publically)

    Most of the financial downfall has been a result of the WTS trying to avoid taxation. Reversing the donation arrangement is always a possibility if they were to overhaul the lifestyle aspect of being a JW. For instance many many many JWs do homeschooling but often end up using the same Xian based material as their worldly counterparts. So if Gilead was expanded to include taxable PreK-12 materials it could boost WTS profit and lay the groundwork for a higher education courses as well..... like so many other denominations. The push to buy from the "Brethern" could also be implemented with such Bro/Sis owned business being awarded various 'seals' to display based on the amount of annually donations or how many WTS programs the support financially. Making Bethel more of a locally supported internship rather then a financial drain on the WTS directly. The more you donate toward your local Bethelite's internship the nicer job he or she gets within the WTS= more prestige for the local KH or JW family. The literature could be offered up for a set amount discounted at the DCs and then a higher rate at the lit counter...... but that said I don't see the Bookstudy continuing for more than a year or two based on the current direction (rather I see it entirely eliminated). I am not even sure we need the magazines either as they leave a paper trail of liability.

    If the WTS wants to go out limping it can but frankly there are many avenues in which this billion dollar company can reinvent itself. The Mormons have a good structure to consider and then improve.

    As far as door to door....... should the WTS make the average publishers life more satisfying by expanding the role and scope of the community KH, most R&F would gladly increase 'sincere' FS. If your life is great because of the association then you will want to share that comfort with others.

    This is why more and more are fudging FS, what do you really have to offer the householder? A life of colporteuring and a never ending demand to do more with the ever present Armageddon hanging overhead compared to their already abundant life of friendship and upbuilding activity through their local church.

    Again with tithing comes entitlment to some of the pot, where as keep a privilege based structure you foster competition among the flock.

  • Amazing
    Amazing

    Berean,

    Interesting post and possible scenarios ... I think that some items you list, however, are not probable:

    Here are possible reasons that "tithing" is likely on the way for the "faithful":

    One of the corner stones of Watchtower theology is not to tithe, as this is considered something that Christendom does as part of her unfaithful activities - in truth, most churches do not require tithing - so, the Society would have to very carefully introduce such a concept over many years in order to get by with it ... if they ever try it.

    1) The WBTS was built by distributing the printed page The demand of bound books and magazines is no longer a major player in our world. Result: Cash flow has been reduced for the WBTS.

    No, I disagree. While literature sales helped, they make money many other ways ... there are a large number of wealthy JWs who have contributed millions of dollars each ... and the Society has stock and real estate holdings all over the world. The Hotel at Paterson, NY is a for profit operation. They have made substantial money on Kingdom hall loans, refinancing Kingdom halls, and they have not been taxed ... then they are able to hide funds in foreign countries - Switzerland being the most obvious.

    Secondly, the Society has always required JWs to pay in advance for literature ... that alone is their marketing secret, a built-in retail outlet from loyal members. The late 1980s change from voluntary donations from for literature was only changed to donations to the 'worldwide preaching work.' Otherwise, financially and functionally, little has changed. They now charge more for literature. JWs may be ordering less literature, and as a result, there is less demand. This has resulted in the Society selling off some assets that are no longer needed. However, they have more than enough invested and saved to carry them through many decades to come. With over 7 million JWs, they will survive without having to impose a tithe.

    2) Door-to-door sales has become the least effective way to reach the public. Result: less and less direct marketing is occurring ... limiting potential new membership and contributions.

    Door-to-door was always ineffective ... and the Watchtower Society knows it ... even the most brain dead JW who goes out in Service once a month can see that ... for the Catholic Church grows far faster each year and they do it by several other means. There are about 1.2 million JWs in the USA, which took over 120 years to achieve ... the Catholic Church grows by 1.5 million each year just in the USA. The marketing has less to do with the public and far more to do with getting JWs to buy literature to use in Service. My wife and I used to order 30 of each magazine issue ... 10 for each of us, plus 6 for study copies (2 parents and 4 children) and 4 extras for the kids to use at the doors ... this amounts to 120 total magazines a month ... and we placed maybe 20 to 40 total per month, leaving about 80 magazines to store in our garage until they rotted ... the Society knows good and damn well this is what goes on ... and has gone on ... and they don't care. The point of sale for the Society is the JW at the Kingdom Hall.

    3) The cost of transportation has never been higher per mile. Result: The more money used to travel in the ministry, the less time available for the contribution box.

    In relative terms, the cost of transportation is about the same as always ... gasoline per gallon has historically been about 1/100,000 of the price of an average home. In the 1950s, when houses were about $9,000 a gallon was about 9 cents ... in 2009, a gallon is about $2.90 and the average home is about $290,000. It fluctuates back and forth, so these averages are not always constant ... but they come back in line more often than not ... likewise for the relationship of prices to wages. The heavy recession in late 2008 to early 2009 is among the exceptions.

    4) Russell's plan was launched in lands where the standard of living was higher such as the good old USA. Today's growth in the organization is coming from poor third world countries. Result: A greater number of members have little which to give and are actually costing the WBTS to provide services for these needy.

    The JWs in wealthier lands are still giving money ... when I started as a JW, our congregations never sent in extra contributions ... not until the 1980s did we vote each month to send in money as a congregation ... USA congregations in particular send in a lot of support in addition to buying literature.

    5) The modern Witness now realizes that they will likely live out their "golden years" in this system of things. 1975 didn't end it all ... this generation did pass away ... more of the anointed keep popping up ... Result: the friends are holding back some of their assets to finance tomorrow.

    Maybe ... its hard to say. 1975 has pretty much passed by the current generation of JWs ... so the effects of its failure have gone about as far as it can go ... just like the 1914 failure ... so the current generation of JWs just do not think about 1975 ... they leave or remain for different reasons now.

    6) Many JWs have chosen not to have children. Result: Growth inevitably comes from within. Consider the fate of the Shakers.

    JWs go through this periodically ... then they Society will encourage children, and so on ... my guess is that they have a large enough membership that they will grow from within more than with new converts ... whether this sustains them into the future remains to be seen ... but to sustain a culture, the growth rate must be at least 2.4% or higher. Most western cultures are below that number ... whereas Muslims are over 4% ... JWs typically have hung around 3% or better ... but if they dip below 2.4%, then they will have issues.

    In summary, Though Russell has had a good run, he built a business model that was temporary. It required a carrot on a stick at all times. There is little new under the sun at the WBTS. The new proto-type for the organization will require an obligation for all members to financially support the slave's quarters or it itself will become the ultimate "fader."

    It could be ... but the WTS leaders are a crafty bunch ... and they may learn to adopt the Internet as the cheap way to send out literature ... and then have JWs copy it to various email addresses, or print it to use in Service ... and thus costs go down, and access and marketing increases.

  • The Berean
    The Berean

    Just an added note

    In the local congregations in my area a letter was read recently RECCOMENDING a contribution be sent to New York at the rate of $7 per publisher. To me, any time a specific percentage or amount is requested ... that is a tithe ... it all gets down as to what one wishes to label such a levy ... did anyone else hear such a motion in their hall?

  • WTWizard
    WTWizard

    I wonder if it comes with a money back guarantee. If my prayers are not answered item for item, I get my money back--or, if they really have faith in Jehovah, double my money back. Item for item does not mean "In a sense", or "Wait on Jehovah", or "You didn't have faith", or any other weasel terms. It means getting, item requested is the item received, what I ask for, within the minimum amount of time possible for it to be executed.

    If they are not going to agree, signed and notorized (so I can sue them for every penny they have if they do not pay up), I will not pay those cockroaches so much as another penny. I have found a good source of Zero Dollar Bills and Void Checks (and I am sure other links to these are everywhere), and I will "donate" those until my prayers are fully, item for item, answered regardless of what they levy on me as a "tithe".

    If they create value in my life, so be it. If they do not, then I will not pay for empty promises such as the fake experience in the book of Job.

  • OUTLAW
    OUTLAW

    Your dealing with a Multi-Billion Dollar Corporation..The WBT$.......They have very deep Pockets.....A Battery of Lawyers.....And..No end of Arrogance..........The WBT$ will be here,for more than a few years....................................OUTLAW

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