Congregation "Bible Study" Comments - Week Commencing 15 June 2009

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  • LUKEWARM
    LUKEWARM

    ***lv chap. 6 pp. 62-65 How to Choose Wholesome Entertainment***

    Chapter6 - How to Choose Wholesome Entertainment

    "Do all things for God's glory."-1 CORINTHIANS 10:31.

    Q1,2. What choice do we need to make regarding entertainment?IMAGINE that you are about to eat a tasty piece of fruit but then notice that a part of it is rotten. What will you do? Well, you could eat the entire fruit, even the bad part; you could throw away the entire fruit, including the bad part; or you could cut the bad part out of the fruit and enjoy the good part. What choice will you make?

    2 In a way, entertainment is like that fruit. At times, you want to enjoy some recreation, but you realize that much of the entertainment available today is morally bad, even rotten. So, what will you do? Some might tolerate what is bad and swallow whatever entertainment this world has to offer. Others might avoid all entertainment to make sure that they will not be exposed to anything harmful. Still others might carefully avoid entertainment that is harmful but occasionally enjoy that which is relatively wholesome. What choice should you make in order to keep yourself in God's love?

    "What choice should you make" would have been better rephrased to "What choice will you make" as the Christian should be encouraged to make his own decisions based on his conscience and Christian principles rather than being told what to do

    Q3. What will we now consider?3 Most of us would select the third option. We appreciate the need for some recreation but want to limit our entertainment to what is morally sound. Therefore, we need to consider how we can determine what is wholesome and what is not. First, though, let us discuss what effect our choice of entertainment can have on the worship we render to Jehovah.

    "DO ALL THINGS FOR GOD'S GLORY"

    Q4. How should our dedication affect our choice of entertainment?4 Some time ago, an elderly Witness who was baptized in 1946 observed: "I have made it a point to be present at every baptism talk and to listen carefully, as if it were my own baptism." Why? He explained, "Keeping my dedication fresh has been an important step in remaining faithful." You will doubtless agree with that sentiment. Reminding yourself that you promised Jehovah you would use your entire life to serve him motivates you to endure. (Ecclesiastes 5:4; Hebrews 10:7) In fact, meditating on your dedication will affect your view not only of the Christian ministry but also of all other areas of life-including entertainment. The apostle Paul underlined that truth when he wrote to Christians in his day: "Whether you are eating or drinking or doing anything else, do all things for God's glory."-1 Corinthians 10:31.

    "I have made it a point to be present at every baptism talk and to listen carefully, as if it were my own baptism." - Wonder what he thinks of the change of the baptism questions, namely:

    Pre 1985:
    (1) Have you recognized yourself as a sinner and needing salvation from Jehovah God? And have you acknowledged that this salvation proceeds from him and through his ransomer, Christ Jesus?

    (2) On the basis of this faith in God and in his provision for redemption have you dedicated yourself unreservedly to Jehovah God, to do his will henceforth as that will is revealed to you through Christ Jesus and through God's Word as his holy spirit makes it plain?

    After 1985:
    (1) On the basis of the sacrifice of Jesus Christ, have you repented of your sins and dedicated yourself to Jehovah to do his will?

    (2) Do you understand that your dedication and baptism identify you as one of Jehovah's Witnesses in association with God's spirit-directed organization?

    "Keeping my dedication fresh has been an important step in remaining faithful." - Dedication and faithfulness to God or to the "commands of men" imposed by the leadership of the WTS?


    "meditating on your dedication will affect your view...of the Christian ministry" - Another plug for the ministry in an article discussing entertainment!
    How many witnesses know about this information about house-to-house?

    http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/bible/165144/1/COMMENTS-YOU-WILL-NOT-HEAR-AT-THE-WT-STUDY-09-07-08-HOUSE-TO-HOUSE-MINISTR

    Q5. How does Leviticus 22:18-20 help us to see the implicit warning behind Romans 12:1?5 Everything you do in life is related to your worship of Jehovah. In his letter to the Romans, Paul used a forceful expression to impress this truth upon fellow believers. He urged them: "Present your bodies a sacrifice living, holy, acceptable to God, a sacred service with your power of reason." (Romans 12:1) Your body includes your mind, your heart, and your physical strength. All of these, you use in serving God. (Mark 12:30) Paul speaks of such whole-souled service as a sacrifice. That expression contains an implicit warning. Under the Mosaic Law, a sacrifice that was blemished was rejected by God. (Leviticus 22:18-20) Similarly, if a Christian's spiritual sacrifice is tainted in some way, it will be rejected by God. How, though, could that happen?

    Who was Paul talking to according to WTS? If it's the anointed then how do these words apply to the great crowd?

    "...if a Christian's spiritual sacrifice is tainted in some way, it will be rejected by God" - So they speak for God again! Where is the forgiveness of sins on the basis of Christ's ransom sacrifice? Only God decides this based on a person's heart not some corporate lawyer of the WTS.


    Q6,7. How could a Christian taint his body, and what could be the consequences?6 Paul admonished the Christians in Rome: "Do not...go on presenting your members ["parts of your body," New International Version] to sin." Paul also told them to "put the practices of the body to death." (Romans 6:12-14; 8:13) Earlier in his letter, he had given some examples of such "practices of the body." Regarding sinful mankind, we read: "Their mouth is full of cursing." "Their feet are speedy to shed blood." "There is no fear of God before their eyes." (Romans 3:13-18) A Christian would blemish his body if he used his "members," or body parts, for such sinful practices. For instance, if a Christian today deliberately views such depraved material as pornography or watches sadistic violence, he is "presenting [his eyes] to sin" and is thus tainting his whole body. Any worship that he renders amounts to a sacrifice that is no longer holy and is unacceptable to God. (Deuteronomy 15:21; 1 Peter 1:14-16; 2 Peter 3:11) What a high price to pay for pursuing unwholesome entertainment!

    [his eyes] - Why do they always add to the Bible?

    7 Clearly, a Christian's choice of entertainment has weighty consequences. Surely, then, we want to choose entertainment that will enhance, not taint, our sacrifice to God. Let us now discuss how we can determine what is wholesome and what is not.

    "ABHOR WHAT IS WICKED"

    Q8,9. (a)Entertainment can be broadly divided into what two categories? (b)What forms of entertainment do we reject, and why?8 In broad terms, entertainment can be divided into two categories. One includes entertainment that Christians definitely avoid; the other is made up of entertainment that Christians may or may not find acceptable. Let us start by considering the first category-entertainment that Christians avoid.

    9 As noted in Chapter 1, some forms of entertainment highlight activities expressly condemned in the Bible. Think, for example, of Web sites as well as movies, TV programs, and music that have sadistic or demonistic content or that contain pornography or promote vile, immoral practices. Since such degraded forms of entertainment portray in a positive light activities that violate Bible principles or break Bible laws, they should be shunned by true Christians. (Acts 15:28, 29; 1 Corinthians 6:9, 10; Revelation 21:8) By rejecting such unwholesome entertainment, you prove to Jehovah that you truly "abhor what is wicked" and consistently "turn away from what is bad." That way, you have "faith without hypocrisy."-Romans 12:9; Psalm 34:14; 1 Timothy 1:5.

    Where is the mention of Jesus and the principles he taught?

    Is this the WTS example of "faith without hypocrisy"?

    http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/176262/1/BREAKING-NEWS-WATCHTOWER-IS-STILL-A-MEMBER-OF-UN-SOURCE-SAYS

  • carla
    carla

    aww crap. crap, crap, crap! that's all I can say! Another stupid article that will impact my life for a few days to a week until the next mind melting session and he forgets about it.

    In real life adults are able to use their God given brain all by themselves. Thank goodness for DVR.

  • insearchoftruth
    insearchoftruth

    Yep, if my wife goes this week, it will be miserable for a while...she is often on the fringes, so this may open her eyes a bit, depends on what degree of wash her brain has been provided this week.

  • Will Power
    Will Power

    In broad terms, entertainment can be divided into two categories. One includes entertainment that Christians definitely avoid; the other is made up of entertainment that Christians may or may not find acceptable.

    GEEEZ what happened to good wholesome entertainment? guess JWs better play it safe and cut out all forms JUST IN CASE!

    now that you've got this extra time on your hands why not pioneer? what a load of shyt

    wp

  • mindmelda
    mindmelda

    Lather, rinse repeat. This is your brain on the WTS.

    There's this whole underlying message in that article of "you're too stupid and weak to know what's good for you without Big Brother telling you what to do" that is very Orwellian.

  • insearchoftruth
    insearchoftruth

    GEEEZ what happened to good wholesome entertainment? guess JWs better play it safe and cut out all forms JUST IN CASE!

    Sure seems to be the direction it is heading, doesn't it???

  • WTWizard
    WTWizard

    I can remember when I was going in. The humanoid that dragged me in would treat it like one bad spot ruins the whole thing--he wanted me to get rid of a whole discography of any artist that had even one bad song (and he was the one that decided what was "bad". That would have meant that, even if I had a collection of all-clean records from an act, and that act later put out one "bad" song (even a mildly "bad" one deep in the album), those records to which I had listened to without a problem would have had to be thrown away. That went for music that I had been listening to since 1973 (when it came out) without a problem before going into the cancer.

    What they are actually telling you is that "wholesome" entertainment means going on a trip to where the "need" is greater and doing field circus there. Or, one could go into an amusement park with a pocket full of wastes of paper, and hand them out to other customers. Or, hike on paths where there are a lot of people, and place wastes of paper with them. Or do more door to door, placing washtowels and asleeps, and Washtowel Teach books with the Not Well Translated version of the Unholy Scriptures, with the goal of studying with them. Or, one could write letters until all hours of the night, and then get up at 5:30 in the morning to be at the Kingdumb Hell for street work.

    There are also those exciting trips to McDonald's for lunch. And, three a$$emblies per year, where you have the thrill of listening to a boring day of talks, and seeing people getting soaked from head to toe (including children as young as 6). And, there is the granddaddy of them all--the REJECT Jesus Party where you get the thrill of a lifetime. You actually get to fight parking attendants that have different places for you to park your car, battle to find (and keep) a seat, listen to a boring 45 minute talk, and watch them pass a plate of stale crackers and spoiled grape juice.

    Or, you can entertain yourself by reading the littera-trash. There is the story about how Adam was once perfect, and Satan tempted him into sinning. Then there is the long story about the redemption process, and what is supposedly "soon" (for the last 135 years and counting) about to happen. You also get to read about all the rules that are necessary to narrow your life down to nothing. And, yes you get your choice of 135 songs that you can listen to. All one hundred and thirty-five of them! (That is to take effect at the end of 2009--enjoy the 225 while you still have them).

    And, if you ever feel this isn't enough, just read the stock (and probably fake) example that Jehovah gave you in the book of Job. Why give you anything better when Job got it, and it was prominently written down so Jehovah can get the praise without providing new good experiences?

  • Will Power
    Will Power

    Have you ever been to a wedding where they play music by artists that are gay?

    I have. Wonder what they'd do if they knew? Trash the video of their first dance?

    where will their judgments and double standards end?

  • insearchoftruth
    insearchoftruth

    Well most likely my wife will be going to this fine study tonight and drag the misbehaving son along with her..

    Will be interesting, I gave the son a bit of a preview of what to expect....

  • bobld
    bobld

    Wholesome entertainment,try reading the Bible..Smashing babies,wars, killings and more killings.All the animal sacrifices,killing the first born of people and animals.Here is a good one, God made a rainbow to remind himself of all the people he killed,including babies.What a sad situation to be in,just imagine to remind yourself day in and day out that you killed innocent people.Also the way he killed them,poor babies.

    Plus all the sex stories,remember the guy with a 1000 wivies one sick dude.What about the story of 200 foreskins for a wife.Oh yeah the bible is full of sex and violence good old entertainment that book is.

    Bob

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