Blood Blog - Paul Wade new London Bethel spokesman?

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  • besty
    besty

    It is well known that Jehovah’s Witnesses refuse blood transfusions, and also avoid consuming blood in meat. Paul Wade at the Jehovah’s Witnesses UK office explained: “It’s a biblical position that we take. The scriptures explain that blood is sacred.

    "Jehovah’s Witnesses don’t accept blood transfusions of red cells, white cells, plasma and platelets, what is typically known as a blood transfusion. Witnesses wouldn’t be blood donors. It’s implicit really.”

    Deaths of Jehovah’s Witnesses from refusing blood transfusions have stirred controversy. In 2004 it was reported that The Watchtower Society, the official body representing Jehovah's Witnesses, had announced a change in policy. It notified members that fractions of the cells as well as red blood cells without a membrane could be used according to a Witness’s own conscience. Wade, however, said that nothing changed: “Former Jehovah’s Witnesses claimed we took a different stance, which is simply not true. We don’t accept primary components of blood, and that’s always been our view.”

    He did say that Witnesses are not critical of those who do wish to donate blood. “We appreciate their stand. It’s not that we’re against that.”

    http://timescolumns.typepad.com/gledhill/2009/06/blood-has-symbolic-meaning-in-many-faiths-whether-represented-by-wine-as-part-of-the-eucharist-or-avoided-in-food-while-oth.html

  • blondie
    blondie

    In 2004 it was reported that The Watchtower Society, the official body representing Jehovah's Witnesses, had announced a change in policy. It notified members that fractions of the cells as well as red blood cells without a membrane could be used according to a Witness’s own conscience. Wade, however, said that nothing changed: “Former Jehovah’s Witnesses claimed we took a different stance, which is simply not true. We don’t accept primary components of blood, and that’s always been our view.”

    But did the WTS stance on hemoglobin change?

    Why is it that jws can use hemoglobin-based products produced from expired stored human and animal blood? Can jws use stored blood? yes or no?

    *** km 11/06 p. 5 How Do I View Blood Fractions and Medical Procedures Involving My Own Blood? ***

    RED CELLS HEMOGLOBIN—33% OF RED CELLSA protein that transports

    oxygen throughout the body

    and carbon dioxide to the ………… I accept

    lungs. Products being hemoglobin

    developed from human or or

    animal hemoglobin could be ………… I refuse

    used to treat patients with hemoglobin

    acute anemia or massive

    blood loss.

    HEMIN—LESSTHAN

    2%OFREDCELLS

    An enzyme inhibitor

    derived from hemoglobin

    that is used to treat a ………… I accept hemin

    group of rare genetic or

    blood disorders (known ………… I refuse hemin

    as porphyria) that affect

    the digestive, nervous,

    and circulatory systems.

    *** g 8/06 p. 11 The Real Value of Blood ***

    What Are Hemoglobin-Based Oxygen Carriers?Within each red blood cell are some 300 million hemoglobin molecules. Hemoglobin represents about one third of the volume of a mature red cell. Each molecule contains the protein globin and a pigment called heme—which includes an iron atom. When a red blood cell passes through the lungs, oxygen molecules penetrate the cell and attach themselves to hemoglobin molecules. Seconds later, the oxygen is discharged into body tissue, sustaining the life of the cells.

    Some manufacturers now process hemoglobin, releasing it from human or bovine red blood cells. The extracted hemoglobin is then filtered to remove impurities, chemically modified and purified, mixed with a solution, and packaged. The end product—not yet approved for use in most lands—is called a hemoglobin-based oxygen carrier, or HBOC. Since the heme is responsible for the rich red color of blood, a unit of HBOC looks just like a unit of red blood cells, the primary component from which it is taken.

    Unlike red blood cells, which must be refrigerated and discarded after a few weeks, the HBOC can be stored at room temperature and used months later. And since the cell membrane with its unique antigens is gone, severe reactions due to mismatched blood types pose no threat. However, compared with other blood fractions, the HBOC presents more challenges to conscientious Christians, who seek to obey God’s law on blood. Why? As long as the HBOC is derived from blood, there are two objections that may be raised. One, the HBOC carries out the key function of a primary component of blood, the red cells. Two, hemoglobin, from which the HBOC is derived, makes up a significant portion of that component. Regarding this and similar products, then, Christians face a very serious decision. They must carefully and prayerfully meditate on Bible principles concerning the sacredness of blood. With a keen desire to maintain a good relationship with Jehovah, each must be guided by his Bible-trained conscience.—Galatians 6:5.

    For other types of hemoglobin-based artificial blood products, the hemoglobin is isolated from human blood. It is typically obtained from donated blood that has expired before it is used. Other sources of hemoglobin come from spent animal blood. This hemoglobin is slightly different from human hemoglobin and must be modified before being used.

    http://www.answers.com/topic/artificial-blood-2

    *** w00 10/15 pp. 30-31 Questions From Readers ***

    Questions From Readers

    In the light of Bible commands about the proper use of blood, how do Jehovah’s Witnesses view medical procedures using one’s own blood?Rather than deciding solely on the basis of personal preference or some medical recommendation, each Christian ought to consider seriously what the Bible says. It is a matter between him and Jehovah.

    Jehovah, to whom we owe our lives, decreed that blood should not be consumed. (Genesis 9:3, 4) In the Law for ancient Israel, God limited the use of blood because it represents life. He decreed: "The soul [or life] of the flesh is in the blood, and I myself have put it upon the altar for you to make atonement for your souls." What if a man killed an animal for food? God said: "He must in that case pour its blood out and cover it with dust." (Leviticus 17:11, 13) Jehovah repeated this command again and again. (Deuteronomy 12:16, 24; 15:23) The Jewish SoncinoChumash notes: "The blood must not be stored but rendered unfit for consumption by pouring it on the ground." No Israelite was to appropriate, store, and use the blood of anothercreature, whose life belonged to God.

    The obligation to keep the Mosaic Law ended when the Messiah died. Yet, God’s view of the sacredness of blood remains. Moved by God’s holy spirit, the apostles directed Christians to ‘abstain from blood.’ That command was not to be taken lightly. It was as important morally as abstaining from sexual immorality or idolatry. (Acts 15:28, 29; 21:25) When donating and transfusing blood became common in the 20th century, Jehovah’s Witnesses understood that this practice conflicted with God’s Word.

    Occasionally, a doctor will urge a patient to deposit his own blood weeks before surgery (preoperative autologous blood donation, or PAD) so that if the need arises, he could transfuse the patient with his own stored blood. However, such collecting, storing, and transfusing of blood directly contradicts what is said in Leviticus and Deuteronomy. Blood is not to be stored; it is to be poured out—returned to God, as it were. Granted, the Mosaic Law is not in force now. Nevertheless, Jehovah’s Witnesses respect the principles God included in it, and they are determined to ‘abstain from blood.’ Hence, we do not donate blood, nor do we store for transfusion our blood that should be ‘poured out.’ That practice conflicts with God’s law.

    http://www.ajwrb.org/

  • truthlover
    truthlover

    I am sorry but I do have a problem with that GB thought on blood that is stored.

    We cannot give blood, we cannot store blood...but where does the blood fractions come from?? From a stranger who has previously given their blood - not knowing what that person's background or medical history is and the blood collection cannot screen for all diseases - even tho they say they can -they can't!!!

    That then makes me wonder - if I can accept blood fractions with a good conscience, now that the society says I can without repercussion, from a stranger who has that blood stored and separated into the fractions, why cant I store and have my own blood fractionated??? My body would not reject it, I havent had to deal with after effects of someone else's blood in my system, nor contract perhaps any diseases they may carry that has not been detected.

    Methinks the society has given this problem back to us, to make our own decision, yet realize that the older ones will definitely not have any fractions, even tho it may save thier lives, cause they say whats in the Bible is what we will do -- wonder why the decision to change direction... to calm the younger set, lawsuits, losing their shirts when they have to settle, etc......

  • Marvin Shilmer
    Marvin Shilmer

    Paul Wade has been lying for Watchtower's blood policy from London Bethel for years.

    http://www.bmj.com/cgi/eletters/322/7294/1123#14197

  • carla
    carla

    "also avoid consuming blood in meat" -- what? since when? does he mean like blood sausage or is he including rare filet mignon? (yes, I remember the hot dog stories from the 70's (?) where jw's believed a certain brand put blood in them)

  • leavingwt
    leavingwt

    You can put lipstick on a pig...but it's still a pig.

    Children are dying. Parents of small children are dying.

    It's a dirty, rotten shame.

    Thankfully, when the issue comes before the courts, they almost always remove the parents from the decision-making process. They save the small children from their misguided parents. I wish I could shake the hands of the judges that do this.

    I would also like to meet some adults who are alive today, because a judge stepped in. Anyone?

  • BluesBrother
    BluesBrother

    Paul Wade is being rather devious here...I think the question to him had been framed as "Did you change policy in 2004" - in fact certain fractions had been left as a conscience matter for some years prior to that , for haemophiliacs and the like.

    When did the wording of the announcement for unrepentant blood takers change? Was that what gave rise to the question?

  • besty
    besty

    we need an apostate journalist to get a piece pre-approved for a major newspaper so that the WTS has to go on the record with questions asked by someone who is fully aware of their blood policy shifts

  • hamsterbait
    hamsterbait

    Blondie - I note the quote:

    "IT IS A MATTER BETWEEN HIM AND JEHOVAH"

    So why waste ink and trees after that making it clear that in spite of this, "you better decide what we tell you or jehoobie will KILL you." ????

    HB

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