Support from the most unlikely person...

by mindfield 1 Replies latest jw experiences

  • mindfield
    mindfield

    Hi all! Just thought I'd share this experience I had on Christmas. You could call it my first Christmas gift, although my uncle surely didn't see it that way...

    My JW uncle (let's call him... Mike) is a very, very nice guy. I always admired him for his charisma, youthfulness, and style. Very nice guy. He was also, get this, once a missionary in Africa. This guy is a JW, but man, is he cool. Well, he was over visiting us on Christmas with his wife and we were having our dinner at my other uncle's place. Anyhoo, Mike wanted me to check out some stuff on the internet (windows service packs, etc.) so we went together at my place.

    Let's just say we didn't just surf the internet. We had a very interesting and upbuilding conversation about my present beliefs and attitudes towards the JW beliefs. We started talking about the blood issue. To my surprise, he agreed with me that the WT had made mistakes on that issue. I mentioned other things like the vaccinations, organ transplants, and some other issues. Occasionnally he smiled and nodded, agreeing with my doubts.

    I then talked about how the members of my ex-congregation treated me now, although I was only a publisher, never baptised. To put it bluntly, most of them treat me like a pile of warm, steaming sh!t. That's how I told it to my uncle. I was perfectly honest, because I wanted some honest answers. And he gave me one. He basically told me those congregation members were dumb, that they shouldn't do that. (another victory for me...)

    The discussion basically ended with him... get this... encouraging me to continue questioning my ex-beliefs, and putting them to the test. Of course, the result would be, according to him, that I'd probably come back (to which I said the chances would be small) but it still seemed like a shocking thing to say. Imagine, I had the encouragement of a JW who was once a missionary and, I think, once an elder (or still is...). whoah... He congratulated me on my courage, and basically said "go for it". He actually mentioned Einstein's words, "Question everything."! (I, myself had said these same words to an elder I had chatted with earlier, but the elder said Einstein was only talking about science. My uncle, upon hearing that, said the elder was dumb.)

    So here I am, with a JW supporting me on my journey. I never thought it would come to this. I guess there are exceptions to every rule.

    Best wishes to all!!!

  • cellomould
    cellomould

    wow!

    Great guy. I would have loved to be that kind of elder.
    Alas!

    That's not my journey anymore either.

    I had a somewhat experience with my old roomate, who is now a lawyer and recently came back from Bethel. When we talked over the phone, he was not shocked at all by ANYthing I said.

    I was shocked, however.

    For example, I told him I thought that humans may be entirely non-autonomous, meaning that it could be impossible to prove that we are even capable of making rational decisions. Rather, we would be nothing more than products of our environment.

    His response was kinda like, 'yeah, I can see your point there. perhaps that's true.' Not only was he making concessions, he also showed that he had thought about this subject in depth.

    He also had some nice things to say about people in the organization doing things for 'their own reasons'. Some people, he said, 'serve Jehovah' just because it makes their hearts feel good, while others actually grasp things intellectually. He went on to comment that most people in the org lean heavily toward the former, but that's no reason to judge them.

    cellomould

    "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." Edmund Burke

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