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by TheOldHippie 8 Replies latest jw friends

  • TheOldHippie
    TheOldHippie

    Home circumcision of 4-year-old ends in conviction.

    Source: CBC News

    Posted: 10/16/09 12:38PM

    Filed Under: Canada

    A Vancouver-area father has been found guilty of negligence causing bodily harm after botching a home-circumcision attempt on his four-year-old son as part of a spiritual quest to make things right with God.

    The bizarre case centred on a battle over the religious freedoms of the former Jehovah's Witness, who was trying to follow a literal interpretation of the Bible after a series of misfortunes hit his family.

    During the trial, the B.C. Supreme Court heard that after a bad motorcycle accident in 2002 left both the man and his wife with brain injuries, he began the religious quest that eventually led him to believe that both he and son needed to be circumcised to celebrate Passover.

    The man, identified only as D.J.W. to protect the identity of his son, began researching home circumcision on the internet and in the Bible, and by listening to a radio show.

    His first attempt to circumcise himself ended up with his foreskin turning black and only part of it cut off. When he couldn't stop the bleeding, he called an ambulance, and a doctor in a hospital emergency room ended up stitching up the bleeding wound.

    Wonder Powder used to stop bleeding

    The man later returned to the internet for more research and met some other religious fundamentalists, who were also dog breeders. They advised him they used a veterinary powder called BloodStop to halt any bleeding when they circumcised their 13-year-old son.

    At $30 a bottle, Blood Stop was too expensive for the man. But during a trip to Washington state to celebrate Passover with a friend, the man found another more affordable product, called Wonder Dust, meant for horses.

    The man also contacted several doctors and rabbis, all of whom refused to do the operation either because the boy was too young for a general anesthetic or because the family was not Jewish.

    So after a trip to London Drugs to buy razor blades in January 2006, he asked his son if he could cut off his foreskin, so he could be just like dad.

    No ice for the Israelites

    The man testified in court that, after the boy consented to the circumcision, he fed him some mead a biblical beverage made from honey lay him on the kitchen floor, stretched his penis across a cutting board and cut off part of the foreskin.

    When asked in court whether the man used ice to ease the boy's pain, he replied, "Where would the Israelites have found ice?"

    He then applied the Wonder Dust, gave the boy some ice cream and told him he could watch whatever movies he wanted that week, before heading off to church, leaving the boy in the care of his mother, who could not stand the sight of blood.

    The boy spent the next few days walking with his legs wide apart, until a social worker, who caught wind of the operation, brought two police officers to the house to take the boy into protective custody for a medical examination.

    After the medical staff found the boy's penis coated in a thick cap of black tarry substance from the Wonder Dust, they decided to remove the rest of the family's children from the home.

    Meanwhile, a surgeon removed "a beehive coating" from the boy's penis before properly circumcising him, saying later in court that the boy would likely have ended up with a disfigured penis had the operation not been completed.

    Religious freedom argued

    In court, the man's lawyer, Douglas Christie, argued the man's desire to fulfil his religious duty negated any criminal intent.

    And in her ruling issued on Wednesday, Judge Marion Allan found the man not guilty on charges of aggravated assault and assault with a weapon, saying the man did not seriously harm the boy and the razor blade was not used as a weapon.

    But the judge also ruled the child could not have consented to the operation and the father should have known he needed a trained professional to perform it especially given his own first-hand experience and found him guilty of negligence causing bodily harm.

    "Indeed his motivations could be characterized as selfish or even deluded insofar as he believed that he was unable to live in his home at Passover with any uncircumcised male, including his four-year-old son," wrote the judge in her ruling.

    The man's lawyer is reportedly considering an appeal on constitutional grounds, and a sentence has yet to be handed down.

  • wha happened?
    wha happened?

    "During the trial, the B.C. Supreme Court heard that after a bad motorcycle accident in 2002 left both the man and his wife with brain injuries, he began the religious quest that eventually led him to believe that both he and son needed to be circumcised to celebrate Passover."

    If we could only blame all of the brain dead activity with those old guys in a dorm in NY on a brain injury, we might have had more compassion for their plight

  • TheOldHippie
    TheOldHippie

    I know; it is such a tragic story - but I cannot stop laughing. It is the way it is written as well. I mean, the sentence "The boy spent the next few days walking with his legs wide apart" - I know I should be sympathetic and cry on his behalf - but I end up laughing. I regret my wickedness.

  • wha happened?
    wha happened?

    reminds me of my vas

  • nameless_one
    nameless_one
    I know; it is such a tragic story - but I cannot stop laughing. It is the way it is written as well. I mean, the sentence "The boy spent the next few days walking with his legs wide apart" - I know I should be sympathetic and cry on his behalf - but I end up laughing. I regret my wickedness.

    Yeah, a four-year-old child who can't walk because his lunatic father disfigured his genitals with a razor blade and "Wonder Dust" meant for horses is so hilarious.

    What is wrong with you??

  • Chalam
    Chalam

    It just goes to show that the underlying faith JWs have is one of observing the law, not faith in Jesus.

    Shame the dude didn't understand these verses.

    Galatians 3:10-14 (New International Version)

    10 All who rely on observing the law are under a curse, for it is written: "Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law." 11 Clearly no one is justified before God by the law, because, "The righteous will live by faith." 12 The law is not based on faith; on the contrary, "The man who does these things will live by them." 13 Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us, for it is written: "Cursed is everyone who is hung on a tree." 14 He redeemed us in order that the blessing given to Abraham might come to the Gentiles through Christ Jesus, so that by faith we might receive the promise of the Spirit.

    All the best,

    Stephen

  • TheOldHippie
    TheOldHippie

    "What is wrong with you??"

    Probably half as much as what is wrong with you.

  • quietlyleaving
    quietlyleaving

    very bizarre oldhippie

    http://www.cirp.org/library/legal/brigman/

    an interesting article that raises thought provoking questions about religious freedom and the law through an examination of how courts have responded to the practice of circumcision. The article concludes with the following and my understanding is that it indicates a way for taking civil action by children against their parents if they want to in future.

    For this reason, the civil law presently offers more fruitful avenues of approach. Because there are "no medical indications for routine circumcision," 77 the doctrine of informed consent requires that parents be told that such surgery is not required, that is is painful and that there are significant rates of surgical complications. Failure to give a complete explanation warrants a suit by parents, by the child or by a next friend acting on the child's behalf. Authorizing surgery on an infant after such a warning conceivably opens the door to a subsequent suit by the child against his parents. While state courts have been reluctant to allow suits by children against their parents, there is a growing trend to allow recovery where there is clear adverse interest. 78

    Suits for damages against surgeons, hospitals, and conceivably parents, are possible because

    malice in the sense of ill will or a desire to cause injury is not essential to sustain a recovery for intentional wrongdoing. It is enough for the plaintiff to show that the defendant knowingly and intentionally did the act which caused the damage and that damage was substantially certain to follow. 79

    The limitation posed by suits for negligence in this area is the same as that in the criminal law: negligence, like crime, is grounded in societally determined assumptions and expectations. Additionally, in the case of civil suits for circumcision, especially those cases without adverse medical complications, it will be difficult to establish damages other than pain and suffering. As a result, suits for damages are not likely to be numerous or very fruitful.

    The most promising approach would seem to be a civil rights class action against hospitals designed to prevent routine neonatal circumcision, that is, in cases where circumcision is not medically warranted. A class action suit would focus on the individuals most culpable since competent surgeons are aware that routine neonatal circumcision is not good medical practice. It would also have the advantage of avoiding the constitutional issues of parental rights, as well as religious issues, since the Orthodox Jewish circumcision ceremony is not normally performed in medical centers by medical personnel.

  • designs
    designs

    The guy was clearly going thru some mental breakdown. The authorities should protect the children in these cases and have the parents under court ordered counseling and a medical examination for this father.

    As an Elder I had to console a sister whose baby had a botched circumcision done by an MD. Not pretty let me tell ya, the kid will never need a ribbed condom.

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