BabaYaga: Their adage of "being won without a word" works both ways.
That may be true for some, but not for my family. My brother and I left the "Truth" when we were in our twenties and still had time to earn univeristy degrees. We've both have not-too-shabby careers, stable marriages, great children, and have lived well for many years.
My other sibs remained dubs and, at the point of what should have been their retirement, are forced to hustle just to get by. Their reaction? Bitterness and envy. Very "Christian" emotions, to be sure. Sometimes you can't win no matter what you do.
You young dub lurkers out there, get thee to a university and learn something useful before it's too late for you. It gets a lot harder to wash windows when you hit your 40s.
parakeet, of the no-apologies class