by highdose 7 Replies latest jw friends
i hear the UK is now going to clamp down on the amount of people claiming welfare. I was wondering what kind of impact this could have on the dubs? i could name at least 10 dubs from one cong alone who were able to work, but knew how to work the system and managed to stay on welfare for years...
could this seriously affect the cult?
Very probably it could affect the cult...but do you really believe that the British Government is going to actually perform any kind of realistic welfare reform?
"Working the System" - being the operative words. Both from the inside and from the out.
could this seriously affect the cult?
I think not SERIOUSLY. A few less pioneers here and there. I knew some who made sure they "couldn't work" but could somehow put in their hours of magazine sales. Nowadays, literature sales don't make much money anyway. The real money is in donations from the members and welfare recipients give some, but people with a job can be guilted into giving more money because they give less time.
I hope it doesnt affect their children... most of the JW's I know are actually very hard workers. Some of the families here own a few businesses and employ quite a few of the other members in the cong... Oz has a simmilar system to UK as far as 'welfare' is concerned... and there is bound to be some who try to cheat the system anywhere, but as for a 'crack down' on welfare, I cant see that effecting all the well off or richer JW's that contribute- they are after all the ones the WTBTS trys to attract (they have more money to donate for littertrash etc...)
the goverment should have stricter standard and results verified by licensed doctors.
after that, people should be investigated, and if work or pioneering (much work in walking for hours) is involved then the case should be classified as fraud
highdose, the JWs claim to be politically neutral- this being a symptom of their being the one true religion. The Assembly of YHWHHoshua is far more politically neutral then JWs- not accepting any form of governmental aid. I beleive Christadelphians, Quakers, and the Amish have the same stance. Seems to me like, according to the WT own standards and the facts you mentioned, the WT can not be the true religion. :)
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If they do away with welfare for the witlesses, the Filthful and Disgraceful Slavebugger is going to clamp down on doing with less. Less for yourself, more for the Worldwide Pedophile Defense Fund. And, you will have to find a part time job (that pays just enough to make your bills, after they have been pared to their irreducible minimum). Meaning less time for sleeping, relaxing, or having anything that resembles fun.
And continue donating to the Worldwide Pedophile Defense Fund as you were when you had money.
One thing I remember about being a witness is how materialistic they were.
They all had good jobs and made lots of money and had nice houses and fancy cars.
And if they didnt have good jobs. They still seemed to have lots of money nice houses and fancy cars.
That was my experience with witnesses in Ohio, Georgia, and Florida.
Back in the 70's I never knew of a lazy or poor JW.
One of the benefits of leaving was not having to keep up with the Joneses.
