on a previous thread i wrote about the child abuse issues i mentioned to the 2 men at my door , but i also told them how awful i think it is that my 6 year olds jw granny had not been to visit her for almost a year (my disfellowshipped husbands mother) because of her beliefs , i said i think it very unchristian behavior and the older one actually agreed! but the youger man said that he actually had 2 grandmothers that he had never met because they hate jehovah s witnesses and did not want to see him , i asked him if he was sure that was true and not just what his parents have told him , because when i was a study i was told of all these relatives that no longer wanted anything to do with dubbies when they found "the truth" but in my experiance it is actually the other way around and its actually the dubbies that dont bother with non jw relatives . he said he was certain . i also mentioned the 1914 thing and it was meant to be th e"end"then 1925 and so on , at this point they were worried they were talking to an apostate and asked if i was ever baptised , i said i had only been a study and carried on talking i told them to check out beth sarim and told them about rutherford being on to a good thing conning everyone into believing the mansion that he very kindly offered to live in till david,issac , abraham etc came back was really for them , the older man actually laughed and said "really" i told them to look up info out of watchtower literature if they were allowed in the kingdum hall library , they said they were allowed to do that ! i mentioned panarama programme in 2002 also and said you wont have been allowed to watch that though , i think it was probably the first time they had a householder they could not get away from instead of the other way around ! around 20 mins i talked for not giving them chance to get a word in , lol
the dub at my door
by looloo 8 Replies latest jw experiences
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moshe
looloo, I am certain you are right about the grandmothers- pretty despicable conduct. Now if it had been me I would have put him on the spot, "let's call your grandmother up right now and find out! Come on in, pull up a chair. What is her name and where does she live? Good 'ol zabasearch would have gotten me a phone number in one minute. They would have run away like "sceered rabbits". Very likely, the kid couldn't come up with a name and city anyway- or they had moved away to a retirement home. In that case, it would have taken me an hour to locate them.
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straightshooter
Hopefully you have got them to thinking about what the facts actually are about the WTS.
Also it was amazing that you were able to carry on a conversation about such topics for so long. Usually when they think the ideas are apostate, coming from a former jw or not, then they just excuse themselves.
Jehovah's angels must have had a hand in this going so well.
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looloo
i think it went well and i kept them listening because i was pleasant and friendly , i dont blame them as individuals for what happened even though just the sight of a jw brings back alot of bad memories .
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judge rutherFRAUD
looloo; you did an EXCELLENT JOB. KEEPING THEM ON THEIR HEALS . and exposing them for their lack of knowledge, and their straight out lies about shunning. it's a shame your not getting more posts on this subject, as I find it one of the most IMPORTANTS THREADS OF THE DAY. on how the handle jw's. but standing up to jw's is not common on this site.
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looloo
thanyou very much for your comments , i am looking forward to my next visit but dreading it just as much , as i wish someone had told me some info like that when i was still living in fear every day .
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nugget
Very good hopefully they will be motivated to look into stuff for themselves but perhaps not. You did a good job of raising the issues in any case, who knows what effect the conversation may have.
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OnTheWayOut
i said i think it very unchristian behavior and the older one actually agreed! but the youger man said that he actually had 2 grandmothers that he had never met because they hate jehovah s witnesses and did not want to see him
"Yeah well, assuming you told me the absolute truth despite not ever hearing what they had to say about it, in my case I would think that TRUE Christians would be able to put such petty stuff behind them instead of doing the same as Christendom."
You did great. That was my thought after time to think about it. Thanks for sharing.
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carla
good job!