Mystical manipulation in the organization

by Mickey mouse 2 Replies latest jw friends

  • Mickey mouse
    Mickey mouse

    I thought this email about Haiti was a perfect example of the mystical manipulation which Steve Hassan and Robert J Lifton describe:

    We had the MTS / Assembly volunteer workers Bar-B-Que this aft and had a visiting brother from the Service Dept. at the DR Branch which is coordinating the relief effort in Haiti.

    Some exper.-

    We all know how the morning of the day of the earthquake the Haiti branch had just filled their diesel generator tank and also the propane tank, both good for 1 month of operation. Interesting... the propane vendor would only come if called and paid in advance. However that day he came of his own accord...

    80 Haitian bros. were transported to 9 different DR hospitals with at least 80 family members. At each hospital there has been teams of local bros set up 24/7- one team tends to cleaning of individual patient and their rooms (this is the 3 rd world), another team tends to supplying clothing and bedding, another brings in 3 meals per day, another obtains meds needed... and all this in each of the 9 hospitals. As the patients are discharged local bros have provided 3 houses of convalescence. When able, the patients are transported back to Haiti to be with their families. There 60 left in the DR.

    In the flurry of medical evacuations from Haiti to DR some of our bros got lost in the shuffle and ended up in a variety of hospitals. How did we find them? Brothers and sisters would go in singing Kingdom songs and the patients that responded were our brothers (Have you mastered the new songs? Might be useful!)

    One youngster witness sister was sobbing because she was all alone in a strange hospital, strange country and strange language and wanted her mother. A brother met up with her and ascertained her story. He said I will find her. He took a digital photo of the young sister and drove all the way back to Haiti (4 hrs) got across the border and went to the cong territory the youngster had said. He actually found the mother and took a video of her since she could not come across the border. He drove back 4hrs to the hospital and showed the video to the young sister. You can imagine the alleviation of the young sister. Hats off to the brother- he is really applying this week’s Wtch on making his brotherly love manifest!!!

    A young couple had to leave their 7 month old baby in Haiti when the husband accompanied his wife to DR for surgery. When the surgery crisis was passed the couple longed for their baby. A brother offered to drive the father back 4 hrs to get his child. When they got to the border, the brother told the border Commandante, ‘Remember this face (the father). I will be bringing him back with his baby!’ (You never get away with stuff like this at a 3 rd world border crossing). They went in and found the child and then came back to the border. As they approached they wondered if they would be shot. “Sigan adelante” (go right on thru) said the Commandente. A happy reunited family ensued!

    The brother-in-law of a DR Bethelite sister had been studying but was a Colonel in the armed forces and had been ingrained with a prejudice against Haitians. Everything criminal that ever came up as was the fault of the Haitians (this attitude can be quite prevalent in the DR). This went on for quite a while until the earthquake. Then he saw the care and love exhibited by the DR bros. in so many ways that he said he wanted to participate in the relief work. One time the bros were to visit a hospital and he was to come along but unfortunately missed a rendezvous to change from his military garb to civilian wear. The bros said, ‘ No problem, come as you are. We know who you are’. As it turned out, because he was in his military uniform the hospital gave them access to wherever they wanted to go and they ended up getting in with no hassles. One person wanted to salute him and he said “Shhhhhhhhhh... no no... I’m a brother!” On ne peut pas juger un moine par son vetement.

    The Haitian brothers are so well cared for in the DR hospitals that everybody in the wards wants to become a witness. They will tell the brothers, “I used to study...” or “My uncle is a witness...” anything to get their attention.

    Perhaps you heard of an organization called “Aide Afrique”. It is based in France and has a number of witness doctors on call. When the call went out, within 8 days a team of 12 doctors (various specialties) arrived with a ton of equipment and were able to perform things in the Haitian assembly hall that even in DR hospitals were not able. They are so good that they have even come back to DR and did surgeries that DR doctors said they couldn’t do without blood. Isn’t there prophecy about things like this.........?

    So.... how do you feel being a part of the greatest org. on earth?! Just think of the next thousand years.........

  • FuzzyPaul
    FuzzyPaul

    Isn't "Aide Afrique" the front group for the French Watchtower branch office? And wasn't that the group that was using United Nations transport to deliver humanitarian aid to a location in Africa which aid was only for Jehovah's witnesses? Seems that a false pretense was in play.

    So what is the truth about the Haitian witnesses in the Dominican Republic? Were they caring for anybody other than Fellow Witnesses? "Love your enemies." The pagans love their own - so what is special about JWs loving their own? The JWs weren't in a Catholic Hospital by any chance, were they?

    Oh, bloodless surgery. A technological feat where only 6 of the major fractions of whole blood are allowed to be transfused into a JW. The Watchtower allows fractions of blood but do any Jehovah Witnesses donate their own blood to be fractioned at a blood bank? Or do they just take?

    You wrote, "everybody in the wards wants to become a witness. They will tell the brothers, “I used to study...” or “My uncle is a witness...” anything to get their attention."

    What actually seems to be happening is the unattended people wanted attention period, which those JWs care team members did or did not provide? Is it fair to say the JW's on those care teams give assistance to as many Jehovah's Witnesses as possible but few if any Catholics, Protestants, VooDoo witches and other refugees?

    I am not impressed and to be honest, I think the story is likely embellished a bit. Is it? IF the reporter did embellish this story, is he proud of the deceit he is propagating? OR is this another case of the ends of promoting the Watchtower justify the means of using dishonesty such as they use to disprove the tri-une god, deity of Jesus Christ, hell as a real place, the literal destruction of the Earth by fire retold by St. Peter. Josephus explained that the prophecy of Earth's destruction by Fire and Flood came from Seth. You can read that in Antiquities of the Jews in the first few paragraphs. So what does the Watchtower think they will do in that thousand years? To a Hebrew heaven is the space the birds fly in. Read Genesis to see that. The Earth is just that. Noah's flood destroyed both, leaving both in a ruined state to this day. The destruction of Earth by Fire will remelt our planet so that it can be reformed. A New Earth with a New Atmosphere (heavens). If a JW argues against that, ask if Hawaii looks all that bad. Hawaii was ALL molten rock in the recent past.

    The Watchtower is not a thinking man's religion and its run by Free-Masons and the Illuminati to "prove the Free-Masonry of the Bible" - Charles Taze Russell.

    I was a JW for 45 years and I'll remain a Baptist. I have a much better life and actual Bible study with no agenda except learning the Bible.

    I'll still pray for you and the reporter but you all must reconsider relying on works to earn salvation. What does the Watchtower think can actually add anything to the value of Jesus Christ's blood? We are only asked to have faith that Jesus paid the price in full and we are to be thankful and care for all our fellow men which is the actual meaning of The story of The Sheep and The Goats in Matthew 25. Read it word for word, The Lord said plainly what he expected. He meant what he said the way he said it, he had no deceit in his words, take care of the physical and emotional needs of other fellow Human Beings.

    Christ died not for our sins only but for the sins of all the world.

    Regards,

    Paul

  • flipper
    flipper

    And what about the hundreds of " doctors without borders " who were non-witnesses that helped people NO MATTER WHAT their religious beliefs were ? I guess they are sliced tomatoes, huh ? Excuse me while I spit up in my mouth a bit. Peace out, Mr. Flipper

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