SERIOUS ??? for the discerning JW who LOVE TRUTH

by Will Power 8 Replies latest jw friends

Will Power

Good day all
A few serious questions. Topics are chosen ONLY to make the answers quick and easy. Try to answer each in turn.
Would you be disfellowshipped as an apostate from the WT TODAY, if you believed and taught the Society's doctrines of 1920? (after the inspection)
YES______ NO______
Would a JW of 1920 have been disfellowshipped if he then believed and taught present-day WT doctrines?
YES______ NO______
Would a JW living in 1913 have been disfellowshipped from the WT if he believed and taught that 1914 was NOT going to be the 'battle of the great day of God Almighty" or Armagedon as the Society was then saying (StinScrip, VolII, The Time Is At Hand, 1908 ed. pg 101, 171 & 245)?
YES______ NO______
Is it right to be disfellowshipped and treated as an apostate for believing and teaching the TRUTH?
YES______ NO______
Since the WT's doctrines and practices are continually changing, would you say that thousands of JWs in the past were NOT "in the truth" according to present-day WT teachings, as they confessed?
YES______ NO______
Have thousands of JWs died believing and teaching WT "errors", according to present-day WT teachings?
YES______ NO______
Did you know that CT Russell taught the resurrected Jesus is "Almighty" based on his conclusion of Matt 28:18 (The Finished Mystery pg 15)?
YES______ NO______
According to Matt 28:18, is it the Father or the Son who as "ALL authority" in HEAVEN and on earth?
FATHER______ SON______
As a JW are you allowed to worship the one with "ALL authority" in HEAVEN and on earth?
YES______ NO______
What is more important? Loyalty the the Truth or loyalty to the TruthTM?
Can you distinguish between the Two?
YES______ NO______
Looking forward to some honest answers.
alliwannadoislive

good points will, and i sign up to the spirit of it - not sure about the disfellowshipping in 1913 and 1920 though - was it in existence then ? ... heh-heh, i like the Truth™
Will Power

Acting on "accurate" bible knowledge would tell me that this practice was going on from the beginning! LOL
If the light keeps getting brighter on the ever expanding knowledge of the truthTM then these questions must be asked as well as
Since the WT's doctrines and practices are continually changing, would you say that thousands of JWs in the past were NOT in the truthTM according to present-day WT teachings, as they confessed?
YES_____ NO______
Are you sure the same thing won't happen to YOU?
YES_____ NO______
unclebruce

Would you be disfellowshipped as an apostate from the WT TODAY, if you believed and taught the Society's doctrines of 1920? (after the inspection)
NO (I am a walkaway so i can teach Jehovah polishes my orphans and cleans my widows with no repercussions)
Would a JW of 1920 have been disfellowshipped if he then believed and taught present-day WT doctrines?
Were there JW's in 1920? Was there dismemberment?
Would a JW living in 1913 have been disfellowshipped from the WT if he believed and taught that 1914 was NOT going to be the 'battle of the great day of God Almighty" or Armagedon as the Society was then saying (StinScrip, VolII, The Time Is At Hand, 1908 ed. pg 101, 171 & 245)?
Sounds more like retoric than a question. Did Russell disfellowship folks?
Is it right to be disfellowshipped and treated as an apostate for believing and teaching the TRUTH?
YES, it's tradition, should be much more of it, dismember all 6 million of 'em and treat them with a posphate I say!
Since the WT's doctrines and practices are continually changing, would you say that thousands of JWs in the past were NOT "in the truth" according to present-day WT teachings, as they confessed?
NO (they couldn't read the bible so good but the light's brighter now.)
Have thousands of JWs died believing and teaching WT "errors", according to present-day WT teachings?
YES
Did you know that CT Russell taught the resurrected Jesus is "Almighty" based on his conclusion of Matt 28:18 (The Finished Mystery pg 15)?
Volume no.?
According to Matt 28:18, is it the Father or the Son who as "ALL authority" in HEAVEN and on earth?
pass (no bible within cooee of here)
As a JW are you allowed to worship the one with "ALL authority" in HEAVEN and on earth?
YES
What is more important? Loyalty the the Truth or loyalty to the TruthTM?
Can one be loyal to a concept?
Can you distinguish between the Two?
YES, one's spelt with a tm after it.
Looking forward to some honest answers.
NO
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Did I get some right?
unclebruce, form filler outer
YoYoMama

Would you be disfellowshipped as an apostate from the WT TODAY, if you believed and taught the Society's doctrines of 1920? (after the inspection)
YES______ NO___X___
It would be kind of dumb for me to believe old light when there is new understanding that is backed by the scriptures
Would a JW of 1920 have been disfellowshipped if he then believed and taught present-day WT doctrines?
YES______ NO___X___
Not if they were humble and waited on the FDS to make the necessary adjustments. Now if the person was stubborn and full of himself, well that's a different picture.
Would a JW living in 1913 have been disfellowshipped from the WT if he believed and taught that 1914 was NOT going to be the 'battle of the great day of God Almighty" or Armagedon as the Society was then saying (StinScrip, VolII, The Time Is At Hand, 1908 ed. pg 101, 171 & 245)?
YES______ NO___X___
Not all Bible Students (as they were called) agreed exactly on what would happen in 1914. The knew the Gentile Times were ending, but besides that they weren't totally sure.
Is it right to be disfellowshipped and treated as an apostate for believing and teaching the TRUTH?
YES______ NO___X___
Of course not, that is why I'm not disfellowshipped. Now if I started making a big fuss about every single thing the Organization does, then I open criticize what their doing, and trying to hurt by brothers and sisters, then I'd get kicked out very quickly.
Since the WT's doctrines and practices are continually changing, would you say that thousands of JWs in the past were NOT "in the truth" according to present-day WT teachings, as they confessed?
YES______ NO___X___
They were in the truth and tought the truth about Hell fire, the ransom sacrifice, the trinity, condition of the dead, etc.
Have thousands of JWs died believing and teaching WT "errors", according to present-day WT teachings?
YES______ NO___X___
Did you know that CT Russell taught the resurrected Jesus is "Almighty" based on his conclusion of Matt 28:18 (The Finished Mystery pg 15)?
YES______ NO___X___
According to Matt 28:18, is it the Father or the Son who as "ALL authority" in HEAVEN and on earth?
FATHER______ SON___X___
Tricky question, the Father grants that authority, as in delegating, to his son
As a JW are you allowed to worship the one with "ALL authority" in HEAVEN and on earth?
YES___X___ NO______
What is more important? Loyalty the the Truth or loyalty to the TruthTM?
Can you distinguish between the Two?
YES______ NO______ Huh?___X____ (you must define the TM.
Since the WT's doctrines and practices are continually changing, would you say that thousands of JWs in the past were NOT in the truthTM according to present-day WT teachings, as they confessed?
YES_____ NO___X___
Are you sure the same thing won't happen to YOU?
YES__X___ NO______
Will Power

YoYo are you the cellist?
you said
Last I heard one couldn't worship an angel. This was not a trick question you tricked your answer. If the father has "given" All authority who has it and who are you to take it away?
What is more important? Loyalty the the Truth or loyalty to the TruthTM?
Can you distinguish between the Two?
YES______ NO______ Huh?___X____ (you must define the TM.
Thought you'd have trouble with this one.
Form filler outer
you crack me up
ianao

I found this one particularly amusing...
Would you be disfellowshipped as an apostate from the WT TODAY, if you believed and taught the Society's doctrines of 1920? (after the inspection)
YES______ NO___X___
It would be kind of dumb for me to believe old light when there is new understanding that is backed by the scriptures
Actually, since 'you' would be following that 'old-light' you would indeed be disfellowshipped because you could not call yourself a modern JW. The answer to the form should have been YES.
Also...
Would a JW of 1920 have been disfellowshipped if he then believed and taught present-day WT doctrines?
YES______ NO___X___
Not if they were humble and waited on the FDS to make the necessary adjustments. Now if the person was stubborn and full of himself, well that's a different picture.
Notice how one who has gained 'brighter-light' is automatically assumed to be stubborn and full of themself if they make this knowledge known before the 'FDS' does. Seems like the FDS' position has a mental priority over TRUTH(TM) according to YoYoMamma.
On the lighter side, it is interesting to see that if God did indeed choose a NEW 'FDS' out of the 'flock' of sheep, that YoYoMamma would be absolutely ignorant to his creator's selection. (Of course, that could be a good thing since some people who understand a scripture better than the 'FDS' automatically assume divine backing.)
dungbeetle

"were humble and waited on the FDS to make the necessary adjustments"
how can they do that when they're DEAD you ...you....*** because of no blood, or suicide because of no medication for bipolar disorder or schizophrenia.
This is not The Lord of the Rings Movie, where we can joke about Gimli's extra axes, Gandalf's extra staffs, or Legolas' never-ending supply of arrows. This is REAL LIFE, where people DIED because of this CRAP!!!
No, you wouldn't be df'd in some cases becasue you'd be DEAD like the Witnesses in Germany or in Malawi!!!
And another thing...Jehovah's Witnesses don't get the point of the story of Korah. Korah was wrong; the people that followed him believed in him, but they all died too. A JW can really believe in what they are doing, but if the GB tells you to do something wrong, YOU will be punsihed as well for doing it. GET THAT!!!!
NO governing body member has ever put themselves on the line for their beliefs...that's the rank and files' job.
In 1975 a crack team of publishers was sentenced to death by a judicial commiteee. They promptly escaped from the cult and now live life on the run. If you have a problem ... and if you can find them ... maybe you can contact the A--postate Team"
Will Power

Do you see how hard it is to answer "if" questions?
That's a lack of independent think training.

SERIOUS ??? for the discerning JW who LOVE TRUTH

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