Does anyone know about JW's in Africa

by Brocephus 7 Replies latest jw friends

  • Brocephus
    Brocephus

    I am seriously considering taking a leave of absence to travel to East Africa, Kenya, Sudan or maybe Tanzania. I may be there volunteering with a secular organization or with a non-denomination christian ministry. I got my story down here pat, raised a JW, told other christians evil hypocrites out for my blood, wandered the earth ingesting every drug I could find, had a moment and realized most Christians are just like anyone else doing the best they can. Maybe I am too self concious but it's a good way to consendence my experience down for my fellow christians. What I don't know is would that seem harsh in Africa. Do the JW's get more respect there? Are they more laid back or harsher there. I get the impression they may just be another denomination in Africa not quite the self-righteous pricks they are here?

    So my question is, can anyone here give me info on how the JW's interact with the Christian community in any of these countries. I am wondering if mentioning my JW background will be a plus or negative. On the plus I was very aware of what happened in Burundi and Rwanda in the 90's. On the negative if they are as "wheels off" there as they are here?

    Your thoughts appreciated.

    -Brocephus

  • maputo95
    maputo95

    Hi.

    I lived in several African countries and the Witnesses are much the same there as anywhere else. There are many, decent people who are trying to please God. However, there is still the negative aspects that arise, ie-splitting up of families, bigotry against other religions and so on. The WT caused endless suffering when they encouraged JWs to refuse to carry Malawi National Congress cards in the 70s. The government was the party and ownership was all that was required. Carrying the card did not mean you had to attend rallies The WT in New York probably thought the stand was a good publicity stunt to show they were ready to die to support Russell's far-fetched interpretations of the Apocalypse.

    By the way, Africa is the most beautiful part of the world.

  • RubaDub
    RubaDub

    One thing I know, a lot of them are African-Americans.

    Or wait a minute, we normally refer to black people as African-American don't we?

    But now that I think about it, if they are in Africa, I guess we don't have to include "Americans" do we?

    Maybe they are just .... well .... Africans.

    Just a thought.

    Rub a Dub

  • purplesofa
    purplesofa

    Here is an email I got not long ago:

    Remembering our
    brothers in Zimbabwe. . .


    In a meeting where Brother Losch of
    the governing body was fielding questions from the friends
    gathered. I asked about Zimbabwe and if we've stopped building
    Kingdom Halls there. I mentioned that I read Zimbabwe printed a 50
    billion dollar note and that we've stopped building Halls. He
    confirmed that we had to stop. He said, 'we put $5,000 in a bank
    in the morning and by night it's worth 50 cents!" He said the
    friends are existing on one meal a day, sometimes less. They are
    starving. The one meal is just sustenance.
    Neighboring brothers are
    trucking in grain as fast as they can.

    Subject: Zimbabwe
    Keep scrolling.......

    Greetings,
    We received this news
    letter from a brother in the Zimbabwe Bethel:
    Hi to you
    all,

    Zimbabwe is going through a very difficult time. We
    have just heard that the branch has had to release 24
    brothers from Bethel . That will bring the Bethel family down to
    about 60 odd. Some will go into the special pioneer work and others back
    to supporting a local congregation. That is seven married
    couples and ten single brothers. Others may be asked to leave if the
    economic situation does not improve.

    The branch has also had to
    cut back on a large number of special pioneers. So far this does
    not include me....!!! Additionally the whole Kingdom Hall building
    programme has stopped and all construction brothers sent home. So
    far the programme has built about 450 new Kingdom Halls for
    about 530 congregations under this assistance to&NB
    sp;countries with limited resources programme.

    The reason for all
    this is the deplorable economic situation that the country and
    branch has to work under. Our inflation is so high that by the time
    money comes in to the country, goes through the banking System and
    goes out to be used it has lost its value. At present US $1.00 is
    sitting at Z$100 billion. It will be worse this afternoon..!! So
    you may think, for example, that you are going to receive the equivalent
    of US$10. By the time you actually get it the value has dropped to a few
    cents. We can only draw Z$100 billion a day in cash if the banks have
    cash. Cheques and swipe cards are limited.

    We have not had bread
    in months. Fuel is scarcely available but only in foreign money.
    No mealie meal, th e basic food item for the locals, no sugar,
    flour, salt, cooking oil, etc. Electricity and water are often off
    for long periods. Some areas for months and m o nths. So it is all
    very trying. The whole country is on its knees and the politicians
    do nothing to help. But then this is Satan's syste m.
    On the positive
    side. We had our Kingdom Hall dedicated on Saturday. 239 came from the
    two congregations that will use it. One English and one Shona. The
    Hall itself was a major effort. The site is on clay soil and so we had
    to go down with eleven reinforced concrete pillars about three
    metres. It took as long to build our Hall as it took the brothers
    to build our new Assembly Hall. 15 months.....!! Just had a new peak of
    over 33,000 which is very encouraging as about five million have
    left the country for greener pastures in Europe, America , Australia and
    South Africa due to the problems here. So a peak in publishers is
    welcome news.

    Just came back from doing some rural witnessing
    today. We have not been out to our calls in the rural area of our
    territory due to the political intimidations that have been going on
    with the elections. Many brothers have had a very difficult time and
    some loosing everything. Typica l of Satan. The brothers warned us
    not to go out there. But today it was quiet and we were very well
    received. The Truth is still good here.

    Sadly we may have to
    leave before the year is out as we can no longer manage
    economically and medically. The three of us will move to England . The
    Medical Aid Societies, we have been relying on to assist with medical
    expenses, have collapsed. Along with most other institutions. It has
    been so sad to see such a beautiful country go down the drain......but
    then the whole world will be following suit. But we are well.
    Amali a had a cold and cough but now coming out of that.

    So keep
    all the brothers here in your prayers, they need them. We will continue
    to fight the fine fight. Your faithfulness is such an encouragement to
    us

  • jaguarbass
    jaguarbass

    I dont really understand what you are getting at.

    You do know that Jehovahs witnesses are not Christian?

  • Brocephus
    Brocephus

    My question is do the JW's enjoy a better perception in Africa generally than here. Are the JW's considered like a Baptist or Methodist is here? Just kind of a different part of the chrisitian community or are they considered as being kind of out there like they are here?

    Thanks Maputo for the info, can I ask did you go to East Africa at all?

    Thanks Purps for the letter interesting.

  • maputo95
    maputo95

    Hi Brocephus. In the countries I know well-Zimbabwe, Zambia, Mozambique, Malawi, South Africa and Botswana, most people treat the Witnesses as if they were a cult and definitely not Christians, especially by Born-Agains. I have been to East Africa on quick journies but do not know what it's really like. I loved Nairobi and Mombasa but was not allowed into Tanzania in 1989.

    The African Witnesses also have the arrogant attitude that only they are saved and that all other Christians are satanic so the only interaction they have is to try to convert Christians to the WT "Truth".

    About mentioning your JW past. It all depends on your current status and your spiritual goals.

  • Heaven
    Heaven

    realized most Christians are just like anyone else doing the best they can.

    Once I got out in the working world, at a company that 'values diversity', I quickly realized that people are people, no matter what their faith. So your statement above can be stated for anyone of any faith.

    I think you will find that most JWs are pretty much the same world wide. Maybe in some countries other that the US they might be a bit more relaxed but on the whole, they all believe the same crap... that they are the only true religion, they alone are God's people, and that if you're not a JW you are going to die at Armageddon or not get resurrected. You have no hope for eternal life. Because of these core beliefs, I would have to guess that anyone on the outside looking in has to think they're a bit titched (aka loony or crazy).

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