Who might possibly mislead the Chosen Ones?

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  • wannabe
    wannabe

    Who might possibly mislead even the Chosen Ones?

    Does anyone find it strange, that when giving the sign of his coming, rather than find, as one might expect, Jesus telling us about an organization that actually did represent him existing on this earth, that why, there is no mention of any that truly represented him? All we find in Matthew 24- Mark 13 - Luke 21 is the prevelence of false Prophets, with not even a hint of any that represented him. Among those false Prophets though, he foretold one that would resemble so closely the true appointed Organization, it would, was it possible to do it, mislead even the chosen ones. Note his own words on that:

    23 "Then if anyone says to YOU, ‘Look! Here is the Christ,’ or, ‘There!’ do not believe it. 24 For false Christs and false prophets will arise and will give great signs and wonders so as to mislead, if possible, even the chosen ones." {Matthew 24:24 NWT}

    Now, this begets the question, why, even one that actually did look like it was his appointed organization; we were not to believe that one either? We know it would not be possible to mislead the chosen ones, but what about the rest of Mankind; who were not of the Chosen Class? Resembling so closely the true religion, it would be an easy matter to mislead all the rest of mankind, and we find that is exactly the case now.

    Keep in mind Jesus said not to believe anyone, no matter who it was, and what their claims were. Anyone would take in every Religious Organization on this earth at this time. Jesus said: Don't believe any of them. How though would this misleading be done? They would, of necessity, have to have one striking ear-mark, that would aid them as passing off as the one true Religion. What might that mark be? It would be the following, and keep in mind, as you read, Jesus foretold only false Prophets, plus one that actually looked for all the World to be the true Religion.

    14 "And this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come." {Matthew 24:14 NWT}

    This preaching work would have to be done by the one that might possibly mislead the Chosen Ones; due to the fact that, they would be doing a similar work to what all of the first Century Christian's did. Only to the trained eye there would be a noticeable difference; which the World of Mankind would never get the sense of, or percieve. So would be misled, into believing that they were followers of the one true religion,when in actuality they were not.

    Through the pen of Mark Jesus again serves us a similar warning to Matthew's, and once again ANYONE is brought in to play:

    21 "Then, too, if anyone says to YOU, ‘See! Here is the Christ,’ ‘See! There he is,’ do not believe [it]. 22 For false Christs and false prophets will arise and will give signs and wonders to lead astray, if possible, the chosen ones. 23 YOU, then, watch out; I have told YOU all things beforehand. {Mark 13:21-23 NWT}

    Luke foretold, to the letter, exactly the work this False Prophet would be doing, and leaves us with no doubt, as to who this false prophet would be; note now, his words on this:

    8 He said: "Look out that you are not misled; for many will come on the basis of my name, saying, ‘I am he,’ and, ‘The due time has approached.’ Do not go after them. " {Luke 21:8 NWT}

    This, in case you haven't already noticed, is the Preaching of the good news of the Kingdom, as Jehovah's Witnesses will tells us, the 'due time has approached.' They are all taught that the Christ was invisibly present in the year 1914, and poised to strike this earth. They will tell us that the Christ was crowned King of God's Kingdom in the year 1914, that satan was thrown down in that year, and the Woe for the earth and for the Sea began. That World War One fulfilled the words of Jesus at Matthew 24:7 while they ignore completely Matthew 24:6 which is still undergoing fulfillment, while Matthew 24:7 is still yet ahead in the future.

    Anyone with merely half an eye can see the words of Jesus at Matthew 24:6 are still undergoing fulfillment right now, for he had said:

    6 "YOU are going to hear of wars and reports of wars; see that YOU are not terrified. For these things must take place, but the end is not yet." {Mattew 24:6 NWT}

    I don't know as anyone has noticed or not, but Wars and rumors of Wars have been going ever since the year 1914 and the end is still not yet. That puts Matthew 24:7 ahead in the future, and that puts the Governing Body out of office, and all of their interpretations for the year 1914 they can throw in the garbage, for they are not worth their salt. It proves, the War in heaven with satan and his demons cast down has not occured as yet. Correspondingly, it proves the Christ was not crowned King of God's Kingdom in 1914. It proves he was not invisibly present in that year, it proves the appointed times of the Nations did not end in that year. Was they ever forced to admit to that error now, they'd have to crawl away in shame; after convincing all of their followers they are "God's Spirit Directed Organization." "God's Mouth-piece," "God's Channel of Communication."

    It's actually quite laughable when you think about it. For them to say he was invisibly present ever since the year 1914, when he's been invisibly present ever since his ascension in the first Century and seated at the right hand of his Father in his heavenly glorified position. {Ephesians 1:15-23} {Philippians 2:5-11} He was to remain seated until his Father gave him the command to, "Go subduing in the midst of your emnemies." So, he's still seated there, not moving, waiting for that command to "GO." {Psalm 110:1,2}

    As might be expected one other Prophet of God, the Apostle Paul, also foretold this organization that resembled so closely the truth, with his words exactly in harmony with Matthew, Mark and Luke; for note his words on this:

    "However, brothers, respecting the presence of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered together to him, we request of you 2 not to be quickly shaken from your reason nor to be excited either through an inspired expression or through a verbal message or through a letter as though from us, to the effect that the day of Jehovah is here. 3 Let no one seduce you in any manner, because it will not come unless the apostasy comes first and the man of lawlessness gets revealed, the son of destruction. 4 He is set in opposition and lifts himself up over everyone who is called "god" or an object of reverence, so that he sits down in the temple of The God, publicly showing himself to be a god. 5 Do YOU not remember that, while I was yet with you, I used to tell you these things?" {2 Thessalonians 2:1-5 NWT} What did Paul mean: "I used to tell you these things? Of course, that had to be the following: Note too, the expression as though from us."

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    12 "Now what I am doing I will still do, that I may cut off the pretext from those who are wanting a pretext for being found equal to us in the office of which they boast. 13 For such men are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into apostles of Christ. 14 And no wonder, for Satan himself keeps transforming himself into an angel of light. 15 It is therefore nothing great if his ministers also keep transforming themselves into ministers of righteousness. But their end shall be according to their works" .{2 Corinthians 11:12-15 NWT}

    Notice! This one Paul was speaking about had a verbal message or letter, that would look like it came from the true Apostles. The verbal message of course being the polished presentation everyone receives, when Jehovah's Witnesses arrive at your doors. The Letter being a Watchtower or Awake Magazine - Book- Book-let Brochure- Tract. They actually look like they are equal to the early Apostles, but it is a pretense, a masquerade as Paul had said.

    We all know, that only Jehovah can choose members of the Heavenly High Calling. Not even Jesus could choose the ones for that high office. He could not choose it even for himself, but was chosen by his Father, to be a King Priest like Mel-chiz'e-dec. {Hebrews 5:1-10} {Matthew 20:20-23}

    On the other hand, sitting down in the Temple Of God as Paul foretold they would do, the Governing Body, of Jehovah's Witnesses when it becomes necessary, for whatever reasons, will appoint those whom they deem worthy themselves. By so doing take their seat in the Temple of God, and by their actions, profess themselves publically to be God, exactly as Paul foretold they would do.

    We might look at one other way they sit down in the Temple of God, publically displaying themselves as God, and at the same time completely immobilizing the Holy Spirit:

    Let us face the fact that no matter how much Bible reading we have done, we would never have learned the truth on our own. (The Watchtower; 12/1/1990; pp. 19)

    From this we see, the Holy Spirit in the hands of the Christ isn't sufficient to teach us the Bible; we could never learn it without their Watchtower Magazine. That, according to them, is Jehovah's method of Communication. How did Jesus contradict that statement? Recall he said, "For where there are two or three are gathered together in my name there I am in their midst." {Matthew 18:20}

    85) 1939 "It should be expected that the Lord would have a means of communicating to his people on the earth, and he has clearly shown that the magazine called The Watchtower is used for that purpose." (1939 Yearbook Of Jehovah's Witnesses, P Here again they sit down in the Temple of God by saying this because Jehovah uses his Son in control of the Holy Spirit to communicate with his people, yesterday and now, today. They put a rag Magazine in the position the Holy Spirit belongs in. How insulting to Jehovah that really must be.

    1981 "We all need help to understand the Bible, and we cannot find the scriptural guidance we need outside the 'faithful and discreet slave' organization.'" (Watchtower, February 15, 1981, p.19) So, was you to wish to know just by what means they have established that 130 record of failed predictions and false prophecies, you'd best be reading that good old Watchtower Magazine. I know that, because they told me it was so! Here once again they exalt themselves, even over the Holy Spirit that is actually Jehovah`s means of providing the scriptural guidance we need. But according to them, we cannot find it outside of their so-called Faithful Slave. How very arrogant they really are.

    1994 Channel to understanding the Bible... All who want to understand the Bible should appreciate that the "greatly diversified wisdom of God" can become known only through Jehovah's channel of communication, the faithful and discreet slave. (Watchtower; Oct. 1, 1994; p. 8) Here they do away with the need for the Holy Spirit altogether, because its only through their Faithful and discreet Slave, do we receive the greatly diversified wisdom of God. Now they lay claim to be the ones imparting the very wisdom of God! How`s that for taking a seat in the Temple of God? - Now it`s not only the knowledge they impart, but they put themselves in God`s position and impart the very Wisdom of God to use along with the Knowledge. Now they are actually God himself. How would the writer of Proverbs felt about that, I wonder? Let's look:

    "For Jehovah himself gives wisdom; out of his mouth there are knowledge and discerment." {Proverbs 2:6 NWT}

    Look further! Now, we're really in trouble. No Holy Spirit! We're all cooked now!

    1965 "He does not impart his holy spirit and understanding and appreciation of his Word apart from his visible organization." (Watchtower, July 1, 1965, pg. 391 Aw Gee! I wanted to learn how to establish a record of 130 years of failed predictions and false prophecies too. No way now to get Holy Spirit and understanding. So, I'll never learn now. Nowhere else to get Holy Spirit! You don't go to them, you don't get it! They are the only ones who are in possession of it! They impart the Wisdom too, so we're all, really fried. {Acts 2:33}

    1973 Only this organization functions for Jehovah's purpose and to his praise. To it alone God's Sacred Word, the Bible, is not a sealed book. (Watchtower; July 1, 1973; p. 402)

    1936 "... there is but

    one place of safety,

    and that is to be in and to abide in the organization of Jehovah God." (Riches; 1936; p. 101)

    now! Jehovah only protects the false Prophets.To them alone, the Bible is not a sealed Book. Only among them will we find any safety. Only among them will we receive the guidance and direction of the Holy Spiri, and receive any Wisdom.

    We're all really in deep doo-doo

    We thought we were in trouble before, now we really have problems, we have to adhere absolutely to the decisions and scriptural understanding of the Society, because God has given these false Prophets authority over all of us. We'd best be digging out that old 130 year record of failed predictions and false prophecies and pour over it to see if we can gain the understanding and wisdom, they have. So we can save our lives.

    1972 "That they [Jehovah's Witness] must adhere absolutely to the decisions and scriptural understandings of the Society because God has given it this authority over his people." (Watchtower, May 1, 1972, p. 272)

    Of course I've been trying to be funny, but funny it isn't! In this case it's damn right Bloody sad, because many people have been seriously hurt by these oppressive Wolves, masquerading as the anointed remnant; the so-called, "Faithful Slave." When they are nothing more than ministers of satan the devil. "Evil Slave," would be a more apt description of them. Much more suitable!

    Spiritual Bullies, from the Top, right on down to their bullying Elder arrangement. As Paul told us: "Their end will be according to their works." Ezekiel foretold these bullies in his writings in Chapter 34:4,20,21- Read whole Chapter!

    Who does the Governing Body profess themselves to be? Do they not tell us that they, are the Chosen ones? Do they not tell us the anointed Remnant is in their midst? Do they not have a verbal message and letter that has the appearance of coming from the True Apostles? Read Matthew 24:24 over again and ask yourselves, which Religious Organization on this earth now, fits to a T the description Jesus gave of the one who might possibly mislead the Chosen ones? Would it not, of necessity, have to be the one that represented themselves as the Chosen ones?Or the Anointed remnant? Do they not take their message {VERBAL} and their letters {WATCHTOWERS AWAKES} door-to-door on a daily basis, in their preaching campaign?Only this organization could, if it were possible, mislead even the chosen ones. That of course, would have to be, the Governing Body of the Watchtower Society. Otherwise known as Jehovah's, {and I shudder at this word:} "Christian" Witnesses! Wannabe

    annabe

  • wantingtruth
    wantingtruth

    I see that you want to accomplish that call of Jehovah

    Obadiah 1

    1 The vision of Obadiah. Thus saith the Lord Jehovah concerning Edom: We have heard tidings from Jehovah, and an ambassador is sent among the nations, saying,
    Arise ye, and let us rise up against her in battle. 2 Behold, I have made thee (the GB of Jws ) small among the nations: thou art greatly despised.

    3 The pride of thy heart hath deceived thee, O thou that dwellest in the clefts of the rock, whose habitation is high; that saith in his heart, Who shall bring me down to the ground?

    4 Though thou mount on high as the eagle, and though thy nest be set among the stars, I will bring thee down from thence, saith Jehovah.

    5 If thieves came to thee, if robbers by night (how art thou cut off!), would they not steal only till they had enough? if grape-gatherers came to thee, would they not leave some gleaning grapes?

    6 How are the things of Esau (
    the MoL ) searched! how are his hidden treasures sought out!

    7 All the men of thy confederacy have brought thee on thy way, even to the border: the men that were at peace with thee have deceived thee, and prevailed against thee; they that eat thy bread lay a snare under thee: there is no understanding in him.

    8 Shall I not in that day, saith Jehovah, destroy the wise men out of Edom, and understanding out of the mount of Esau?

    Why does Jehovah proceeds like that with Esau ??

    because...

    10. For the violence done to thy brother Jacob( the true chosen ones) ,

    shame shall cover thee, and thou shalt be cut off for ever .

    wantingtruth

  • RR
    RR
    Who might possibly mislead even the Chosen Ones?

    The Governing Body

  • Doug Mason
    Doug Mason

    Jesus told them to watch out for deceivers. These false preachers would point to events such as wars as being portents, but they were not to be believed. In fact such deceivers were doing this even at the time he was speaking - and have continued to do so ever since. It's nothing new today; a success rate of zero.

    Wars have always existed. Earthquakes have always existed. Famines are not new. These things are pointed to by deceivers, but they are not indicators. Jesus never spoke of size, extent, length, number of casualties, just that these things do occur and would be used by deceivers.

    The thief does not announce that he will be paying a visit, and that's how it is with the divine intervention.

    Jesus plainly and explicitly says that an evil generation looks for signs, and also that only the Father, and he alone, knows the timing.

    Doug

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