Russia: Scientology writings banned as extremist

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  • behemot
    behemot

    Scientology Writings Banned as Extremist

    21 April 2010 By Scott Rose

    Works by Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard will be added to the country's list of extremist literature for "undermining the traditional spiritual values of the citizens of the Russian Federation," the Prosecutor General's Office said Wednesday.

    The ruling — initiated by transport prosecutors in the Siberian city of Surgut and Khanty-Mansiisk customs officers — is the latest use of the hotly debated law on extremism to target systems of belief that are not traditional to Russia.

    Individuals in possession of extremist materials can be jailed for up to 15 days or fined 3,000 rubles ($100). The law also allows for harsher punishment of suspects convicted of other crimes.

    Prosecutors said they intercepted 28 individual titles, including books, audio and video recordings by Hubbard that were sent to residents in Surgut from the United States. The materials were sent for study to "psychiatrists, psychologists and sociologists," who determined that they should not be distributed in Russia, the prosecutor's office said in a statement.

    A Surgut city court approved the transport prosecutors' request "in full," the statement said.

    The ruling opens a new legal front against the Church of Scientology, which won a ruling against Russia at the European Court of Human Rights last year.

    Scientology's branches in Surgut and Nizhnekamsk successfully sued the country in October at the Strasbourg-based court for refusing to list them as religious organizations on the grounds that they had not existed in Russia for 15 years.

    The court awarded them a combined 20,000 euros ($27,000) in damages and court costs.

    Among the works to be banned from distribution in Russia are "The Factors, Admiration & the Renaissance of Beingness" (Lectures 1-18) and "The Unification Congress. Communication! Freedom and Ability" (Lectures 1-16), the statement said.

    It was not immediately clear which additional titles were included or when they would officially be added to the list, a process that has taken months in the past.

    An e-mailed request for comment to the Los Angeles-based Church of Scientology went unanswered Wednesday evening.

    According to the research requested by prosecutors, the seized works contained "ideas justifying violence in general and in particular any means of opposing critics of Scientology," the statement said. "The works have clear as well as hidden calls for social and religious hatred" and call for hindering the work of the state.

    Scientology was created by science-fiction author Hubbard in the 1950s. The secretive church has faced regular criticism and litigation from former members, who allege that it is a cult charging massive fees for purported religious services.

    Germany has ruled that it is a commercial organization and several other European governments have refused to recognize it as a religion.

    source: http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/article/scientology-writings-banned-as-extremist/404475.html

  • mkr32208
    mkr32208

    Russia just doesn't get it, you ban an idea and persecute those who follow it you make it STRONGER not weaker. You want to fight an idea you educate the followers. Make them watch the scientology south park a few times! Show them what the religion REALLY believes right from the get go before they have a deep emotional attachment to the stupidity.

    Imagine if instead of banning the witnesses the russians had one of their state television programs dig up all the dirt on the witnesses flip flop beliefs failed prophecy and 120 years of stupid bullshit and played it round the clock on one of the state channels? You think when the ban went down the witnesses would have had a lot of growth? No there would have been one lone witness left in the entire country instead of being like cockroaches being everywhere. You want to fight any religion from muslims to hindus to christianity the trick is EDUCATION.

  • Mad Sweeney
    Mad Sweeney

    mkr makes a good point.

    But IF they're going to ban the Dubs, in all fairness they should ban all cults that use mind control techniques. A bonus is that now the Dubs can't claim they're receiving special attention because they're lumped in with Scientologists now in Russia.

    Also interesting to me is that the Russian government went after the borg years before going after Scientology.

  • OnTheWayOut
    OnTheWayOut
    A bonus is that now the Dubs can't claim they're receiving special attention because they're lumped in with Scientologists now in Russia.

    They will claim it anyway.

    Let me take the opposite side of this. In the United States, the government assumes a position of protecting the citizens from things that are potentially dangerous. While they are afraid to restrict religious freedoms, I still understand the general idea of inspecting and restricting when it comes to products and practices. I always felt that WTS would get trouble in countries outside of the USA because of the freedoms allowed in the USA.

    I support Russia in its ban. The point is valid that some will get stronger in their support, but the government is protecting the vast majority of the citizens from a potentially dangerous cult and their products. Whether it's easy or not, popular or not, the government is taking a stand against something bad. They didn't just pick on JW's and they didn't make their decisions lightly.

    Scientology literature apparently encourages violence and JW literature apparently encourages hatred.

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  • JWoods
    JWoods

    I don't like the Jehovah's Witnesses because they deny their members basic personal freedom.

    I don't like the Scientologists because they deny their members basic personal freedom.

    Can anybody care to guess why I also don't like this sort of Russian lawmaking?

  • Mad Sweeney
    Mad Sweeney

    The difference JWoods, is that banning a dangerous mind control organization is not the same as removing individual liberties. In the USA we're used to the government protecting religious business entities as strongly, and often MORE strongly, than it protects its individual citizens. And in my opinion, THAT is wrong. The Watchtower Society uses EVIL methods to accomplish its ends and should be abolished. Individual people are free to believe whatever doctrines they wish, but organizations that violate the basic right to freedom of mind SHOULD BE banned.

  • JWoods
    JWoods
    organizations that violate the basic right to freedom of mind SHOULD BE banned.

    Emotionally, I agree. But I also value the U.S. constitution.

    Probably the best answer is simply to expose such organizations in public.

    EDIT - to say that I also support removing their tax-free status if they are really for-profit businesses.

  • Mad Sweeney
    Mad Sweeney

    The problem with exposing them is illustrated in what happened to the Cult Action Network. They get one of their members to sue you into bankruptcy, then they buy out your organization and make it a front for their cult.

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