has anybody ever actually counted?

by stillin 5 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • stillin
    stillin

    I'm referring to the actual number of "anointed Christians." The total limit is 144,000, no more, no less. Then it's a sealed deal and Armageddon can proceed. Well, supposedly, ALL first century Christians were anointed, (well into the thousands) then there were "likely" some during the dark ages, then up to modern times, the 1870's and forward. The count has fluttered around 8 or 9 thousand since the 1970's, but of course there have been thousands who have died since the 1870's.

    When I was baptised, there was a person with a note pad right before the baptismal pool who asked "anointed or other sheep?" I sheepishly answered "other sheep" and then got baptised.

    Is there some sort of registry kept at the world headquarters as to the identities and actual count of professed anointed?

    144,000 sounds like a lot of people, but it really isn't many in the big picture.

    Is there a mathematical way to approximate the number of those who have lived an average life-span and then died since the 1870's? Better yet, is there an actual tally kept at Bethel?

  • St George of England
    St George of England
    Better yet, is there an actual tally kept at Bethel?

    From what I understand no tally is kept. When one of the anointed dies Bethel is not informed. You are quite correct about the number however, well over 144,000 must have had the hope even in modern times plus all those over the past 2000 years.

    Interestingly I was told a couple of years ago that the GB privately believe there are less than 2000 REAL anointed left on earth. In other words they think that more than 4 out of every 5 participants are FRAUDS!

    George

  • not a captive
    not a captive

    How do they know that they aren't?

  • blondie
    blondie

    Anyway if you believe this concept, the only counting that matters is God's. The GB has no idea themselves...the only one they can have any amount of certainty and that is doubtful, is individually knowing that they personally were called.

  • God_Delusion
    God_Delusion

    Revelation 7:3-8 states that the 144,000 will be drawn from every TRIBE OF ISRAEL.

    Now, let me see if I've got this right; the number, 144,000 isn't symbolic, but the "sealed from every tribe of Israel" part, is symbolic??

    Now, slap me on my botty and call me Judith, but does that make sense to anyone here?

    Oh and the bible is a Goosfraba.

    Regards

    Carlos

  • Mad Sweeney
    Mad Sweeney

    It's ridiculous to think it is a literal number. The ONLY reason the Borg decided to keep it literal LONG AFTER it obviously wasn't is TO CONSOLIDATE POWER AMONG A FEW individuals.

    They suck. I've probably mentioned that before but it bears repeating. The Borg totally sucks.

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