Possible Cure For Aging?

by metatron 7 Replies latest jw friends

  • metatron
    metatron

    A Russian scientist has been working for many years to create a synthetic antioxidant that ends aging. The matter is controversial but he may have gotten very close with a chemical called SKQ-1.

    http://ouroboros.wordpress.com/2009/01/28/skq1-a-mitochondrially-targeted-antioxidant-that-extends-lifespan/

    Now, the Russians have made a lot of wild claims thru the years but this one appears to have a solid scientific basis as well as accompanying animal studies that appear quite dramatic.

    It does not eliminate death but might greatly impede aging itself - cataracts, grey hair, and all manner of illness associated with age.

    Here of late, I'm getting rather fond of the Russians for various reasons.......

    metatron

  • WTWizard
    WTWizard

    It seems that science is attempting to find and eliminate the causes of aging. The Washtowel Slaveholdery claims that Adamic sin is solely responsible, and will discredit anyone that finds other answers. They have theories about telomere shortening, and already they have a drug based on astragalus extract (astragalus itself has a tiny amount of the substance) that prevents this from happening and may even lengthen telomeres. And now this.

    I think the Russians are getting quite smart, even as the United Tyranny of America under Osama Obama is getting dumber. First they are banning the Jehovah's Witless scam, and now they are going to start doing what Jehovah is supposed to do but never gets around to. Pretty soon, we will be worshiping Russia as a nation of value creators--and perhaps as the new freest country in the world after Osama Obama destroys our own country. That is, unless the Muslims successfully infest the Kremlin.

  • BurnTheShips
    BurnTheShips

    FASCINATING!

    HOWEVER, I have to mention:

    Humans don't die from oxidative stress. Humans die from telomere shortening. And here is the funny thing: most wild animals...die from oxidative stress.

    Their domesticated versions like dogs, cats and cattle?

    Short telomeres.

    Maybe we we have domesticated ourselves.

    That seems to be the flaw in this Russian scientist's animal models: It is telomere shortening that causes aging and death in humans. Not oxidative stress.

    Eliminate that, and you will probably live another 50 or more years beyond the normal human lifespan before the oxidative stress gets you.

    I'll tease you a little bit, Metatron.

    Do a little research on TA-65. It is a proprietary extract of the traditional Chinese medicinal plant astralagus.

    Some astonishing information is available.

    Also, check out my thread:

    http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/members/politics/197953/1/BBC-Horizon-Dont-Grow-Old

    I've spoken to individuals that have had age spots disappear, and it has improved their running performance. If I recall correctly the fellow is in the BBC video I linked.

    You'll enjoy the BBC video. Australian television has a new documentary on the subject, but it isn't yet available online.

    Here of late, I'm getting rather fond of the Russians for various reasons.......

    Can't blame you. Those Rusky scientists are often incredibly brilliant, and unconventional by our standards. That often leads them down some unique rabbit holes, and to some fascinating discoveries.

    By the way. There are rumors running about prominent Russian oligarchs. They don't seem to be aging much any more.

    http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Books/story?id=3020670&page=1

    If you really want to bake your noodle, and mitigate mitochondrial reactive oxygen species, google radiation hormesis. If you raise your radiation levels above normal background, it improves your ability to defend against this part of the aging process, and even prevents cancer, according to many studies. I am considering keep radioactive materials under my bed for that reason

    Either way, thanks for the link. This is a fascinating point of departure for future investigation.

    BTS

  • JWoods
    JWoods

    There is a fascinating article on aging in this month's Scientific American. It also points out that human aging is related to telomer shortening and that certain types of cells have a finite limit on the number of divisions they can make.

    One interesting thing was a chart showing the maximum age of different life forms. Two surprises there were that the domestic cat has been known to survive 36 years, and that the longest known living horse was 62. Both far longer than I had imagined.

    Humans were placed at 122 years max on that chart.

  • metatron
    metatron

    I'm way ahead of you, Dude-ski!

    The TA-65 thing is not the final word on aging. I take Astragalus extracts and I think triggering telomerase is good for skin and the immune system, mostly.

    Watch your OWN VIDEO! The latest clue is bad protein junk piling up in cells, as with the progeria victim. The answer may be autophagy - triggered by fasting while taking anti-lipolytic drugs Explanation: you can get the body to kick bad proteins out of cells by fasting and using drugs to prevent your body from burning fat (get the proteins instead). Thus:

    http://morelife.org/prescripdrugs/acipimox.html

    They did this with old rats and created perfect young livers in them. And yes, I've read about hormesis. Might be good against cancer, oddly enough.

    metatron

  • journey-on
    journey-on

    Bookmarking.....

  • metatron
    metatron

    Oh, and check out this site

    http://www.agelessanimals.org/

    The point is that in the past five years or so evidence of extreme age in some animals has been established. 200 year old whales in particular prove that mammals can avoid aging. We just gotta figure out how they do it.

    metatron

  • JWoods
    JWoods

    The hydra and some kinds of box jellyfish are thought to be "immortal" in that they do not specifically age. Eventually they do succumb to some predator or accident.

    They are, of course, very primative compared to mammels or even reptiles.

    Generally, each species has a sort of built-in age metabolism - it is genetically slower in whales (or giant tortoises) than in man.

    Regardless of various research and theory, there is still no way to change this.

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