FDS: Not Able to Reach the Front Office

by Cold Steel 5 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • Cold Steel
    Cold Steel

    The problem with the Jehovah's Witness claims to a divine government is that it's unable to reach the front office.

    What do I mean by that?

    What if I took $500,000 and opened up a local office? And what if I moved in computers, put in printers and bought AT&T letterhead? And then, what if I bought business cards for a dozen or so people that all had AT&T on them? Would I be part of AT&T? Okay, what if I established a website and used AT&T logos? Would I be part of AT&T then?

    No. I'd probably be arrested for misrepresentation.

    The problem is, there's more to claiming to be part of AT&T than doing all of the above. I'd need to be recognized and established by AT&T before I'd be part of AT&T, wouldn't I? Yet the JWs have claimed to be part of something they're not. And their business cards claim their "government" is something that they're really not. So where does the church at Bethel get its legitimacy? They have the offices, and they have the computers and the software, and the business cards. The only problem is that they were never established by the God they claim to represent. "For ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you and ORDAINED you," the Lord said to the original Twelve.

    So who chose and ordained the Faithful and Discreet Slave? Does the front office in the Celestial Realms even know they exist? And how do we know that? Like the AT&T analogy above, can our false office gain legitimacy simply by having AT&T letterhead, business cards and false claims?

    I can't see where God established the offices at Bethel. Can someone show me where I'm wrong on this? Anyone can claim to represent God. But if it's a government, then God must call and ordain its leaders. And this is something that has yet to be shown.

    (By the way, I have some great phone rates going. Send me money and I'll send you a real AT&T phone...and I'll send you my card!)

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  • Ding
    Ding

    I don't think Jesus was saying there would be A "faithful and wise servant" selected and appointed to rule over people in the last days.

    I think he was simply describing what a faithful and wise servant is like, someone whom God can trust with any responsibility.

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  • Cold Steel
    Cold Steel

    And someone He would appoint. Not someone who would be self appointed.

    Where is the divine oversight? The FDS at Bethel certainly can't do anything but claim to be "it."

    Some JWs came over this past weekend. Very nice chaps. But they got into this Government of God, first being heavenly.

    The parable of the blind leaders leading the blind is an abject lesson in what happens when self appointed leaders attempt to lead without the spritual gifts of selection, ordination, discernment and revelation.

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  • moshe
    moshe

    I have been asking for documented proof of anyone admitting in the first person to being one of the F&DS class- either in the WT or at a convention. So far nobody has been able to come up with the name of one JW, who said, "I am one of the F&DS or "our next speaker is Bro Kumquat, one of the F&DS"-

    No JW ever asks to see the real thing. Maybe they believe in UFOs, too.

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  • sabastious
    sabastious
    The parable of the blind leaders leading the blind is an abject lesson in what happens when self appointed leaders attempt to lead without the spritual gifts of selection, ordination, discernment and revelation.

    Can you point to an organization that meets your criteria here?

    -Sab

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  • Vachi 8 He Is
    Vachi 8 He Is

    As far as I can tell, Russell or Rutherford (I forget who came first but one of those S.O.Bs) made it up in HIS mind that what he saw in the bible, a god who was neither kind, wise, just, loving, lower than even the average person regarding human relations, didn't sit right with him. Then he started spraying lemon pledge on what he read. But he didn't get the memo that golden horseshit is still horseshit.

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