Why JW Baptism is done as a "public declaration"

by Mad Sweeney 6 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • Mad Sweeney
    Mad Sweeney

    Have you ever wondered why Jehovah's Witnesses can't get baptized by their Bible Study conductor in their private pool? Or why they don't get baptized at their local Kingdom Halls? Why do they "make a public declaration" before thousands?

    The answer lies, as it does in so many of the Watchtower's practices, in social influence and conformity.

    Deutsch and Gerard conducted a study just a few years after Solomon Asch (1955 to be exact) which is known for defining informational social influence and normative social influence, the psychological need to be right and the need to be liked, respectively. What Deutsch and Gerard also found was that public declaration of a decision hardened the subjects commitment to that decision even in the face of evidence that the decision was wrong. There is a powerful psychological drive to remain consistent because consistency is valued socially. We have numerous derogatory terms for those who change their minds: wishy-washy, flip-flopper, airhead, weak-minded, etc. We are also often complimentary of those who remain consistent: level-headed, cool customer, strong-minded, etc.

    So people want to remain consistent with their prior decisions and people want to be right and to be well liked.

    When they have made a decision publicly, they will thereafter fight tooth and nail to maintain it: ignoring, avoiding, and denouncing contrary evidence (therefore remaining right) and by favoring the continual association with those "witnesses" to that "public declaration" (therefore remaining well liked).

    Surely there is no difference in the water in the temporary pool on the floor of the civic center and the water in your bathtub at home (other than a greater amount of chlorine). So why restrict JW baptisms to huge public events? Mind control. It is to create a situation where the person naturally will avoid any subsequent analysis of the previous decision making process, cease in any analysis of alternative possibilities, and persist in association primarily with confederate "yes-men" who will reinforce the decision to dedicate the rest of his life to the cause.

    How much of this psychology and research do the men who create such policies really understand? Are they educated and well-read on the subject? Or is it simply an intuitive decision made by an organization with a natural knack for control? I wonder.

    Whether intentional or not, the effects are the same. Many of us know from personal experience how incredibly difficult it is to re-open a mind that has been closed by public declaration of our dedication in the form of Jehovah's Witness baptism.

  • miseryloveselders
    miseryloveselders

    Hey Mad, this is a good topic. I never really considered it before but what your saying I agree with. When Jesus got baptized, other than John who else was there besides the two of them? I can't recall but is there any biblicle record of His disciples getting baptized? If so, what were the circumstances? The Ethiopian Eunuch that got baptized, if I recall correctly only Phillip and maybe the Eunuch's attendant or attendants were there right? At Pentecost a few thousand got baptized, but that was a major event with a purpose behind it that had nothing to do with people doing it publically for the sake of having witnesses.

    The only reason I could see other than what you've stated already Mad, is maybe the convenience of doing it at an assembly or a convention. Plus being that we have conventions and assemblies every so many months, maybe it gives studies time to think things over before taking that dip. Me personally, I'm a private person, and have never been fond of assemblies, conventions, and lately I'm disgusted at meetings. If I had the chance of doing it over I would rather have my baptism be a private, solemn affair. The same as my prayers.

    I guess what else can we expect from a religion that is all about appearances. This religion under Rutherford had the sole purpose of irritating people for publicity, and since then its been an organization thats all about patting itself on the back, criticizing any other belief systems, and worshipping the GB. To choose worship in a quiet, dignifying manner would bring suspicion upon that individual. You can't leave the religion quietly, the same as you can't join quietly. Its like a prison gang almost. Blood in, blood out.

  • sabastious
    sabastious

    I'm sure there is an offical JW answer to this and why it is "bible-based."

    -Sab

  • miseryloveselders
    miseryloveselders

    I'm sure there is an offical JW answer to this and why it is "bible-based."

    -Sab

    LOL, they have an answer for everything. Thats part of their problem.

  • Mad Sweeney
    Mad Sweeney

    I neglected to mention that the publicly dedicated one will go to almost any length of confirmation bias in order to protect that status quo (the feeling of being consistent, right, and liked he has subsequent to his baptism).

  • GrandmaJones
    GrandmaJones

    This is an interesting topic. I do wonder though, if we aren't giving the governing body too much credit? If Ray Franz is to be believed, half of them are asleep at the wheel. Is this just a self sustaining thing? Is it running on autopilot now? Is it possible that these guys are just as deranged as they sound and there is no master plan at all? Just what is the educational level of the governing body? Is that information known?

  • Mad Sweeney
    Mad Sweeney

    The Governing Body is a figurehead, GrandmaJones. The corporate guys and attorneys are all educated.

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