Elders Given Too Much Freedom to Destroy or Conceal JW's Secret Records

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  • flipper
    flipper

    As a witness- I always thought elders had WAY TOO MUCH ultimate authority over rank & file members. I was always questioning things - which didn't make me popular with the elders. There has been a lot writen about secret database files containing information about JW child molesters . Now here, notice the current directions elders are given in how they handle rank & file members confidential information.

    On pg. 18, 19 in the elders manual it states regarding the secretary's duty : " Files sealed envelopes containing confidential records on disciplinary cases, including reports made by judicial committees. Information concerning an individual accused of child molestation, proved or otherwise, should be placed in congregation's confidential file and marked " Do Not Destroy " and kept indefintely. " So this shows elders SAVE & KEEP the confidential records of rank & file members sins, etc.

    But notice how elders & Service committee have authority to do something different to those records if they so desire on pg. 23 paragraph 21 where it states : " Determines whether to DESTROY records concerning a person reinstated five years if the judicial committee is unavailable or unqualified . May designate other elders to handle this. " So what would be the reason for destroying records ? Would Bethel legal require this to get rid of any possible records which would prove they were liable in a child abuse case ? It seems like a contradiction to me ( no suprise I know ) out of one corner of their mouth to say " Save this, do not destroy " yet then give elders options to " destroy " information they deem important to destroy.

    Do any of you former elders or anybody have experience or know about how this has gone down in previous years ? Thanks for sharing your knowledge. Look forward to hearing from yu

  • SnakesInTheTower
    SnakesInTheTower

    When I was a congo secretary anything related to child abuse was marked "do not destroy" and supposed to be kept forever. I will tell you that files have a way of disappearing and/or being opened by people (elders) who have no business looking at it. Even as secretary, if I did not have a specific purpose in opening one of those sealed envelopes, I left them alone. I did not want to know everyone's business, but I was an exception unfortunately. I knew of elders who, when they became secretary, went into the files and purged anything of their family and friends. Some things are copied to the Society so it doesn't completely disappear.

    Once when I was cleaning up badly organized files, a lot of envelopes were so badly deteriorated that they were not sealed revealing very personal information about current and former JWs. I had a "envelope resealing party" right before an elder's meeting. All the elders participated. I had already organized manilla envelopes and relabeled them properly. If the original elders on the JC were there, then I had them transfer and seal the envelopes. If none of the original elders were there, one elder was given the material and it was resealed in front of all of us. One elder tried to read some of the case notes, but I and/or other elders stopped him and it was resealed. Since I had found envelopes unsealed for no reason, I also had seals put on the flaps and signed by two elders and dated. If it was reopened, the seal would be obviously be broken. If there was a reason to revisit a case, then a new seal would be applied and dated with the names of the elders opening it. A lot of work to protect confidentiality but I felt it important. I took my responsibility seriously.

    Stopped a lot of the underground gossiping among the elders and their wives... no access to the goods .... for awhile. About a year later I was deleted... and a ... lets say less than careful elder became secretary.... and the gossip began to flow again.

    Ironically, most of this BOE is now either DF or at least no longer elders. A**holes. LOL At least I don't have to worry about such mundane s*it anymore.

    Snakes (Rich )

  • flipper
    flipper

    SNAKES- It sounds like you were a really conscientious elder who took great care to protect the confidentiality of all the witnesses you were assigned over. Good for you. It's good to see there were at least SOME honest men among the bunch. But as you say - after you STOPPED being an elder- who knew whether the guy succeeding you would be honest ? I'm sure so much has leaked out about so many people over the years that the rumor mills run amok with different people's " skeletons in the closet ". I mean - if strange stuff leaked out about GB members at Bethel ( as has happened in the past ) no telling what leaks out about thousands of other people.

    I'm thinking that the WT society perhaps gives orders to destroy information for protection of them legally , you think ? Peace out, Mr. Flipper

  • flipper
    flipper

    Any other thoughts on this topic by ex-elders or anybody aware of records being saved or destroyed in the past ? Peace out, Mr. Flipper

  • flipper
    flipper

    BTTT for any comments & observations, Thanks ! Peace out, Mr. Flipper

  • flipper
    flipper

    Figured I'd bump this thread up as it pertains to another threads discussion right now. Maybe newer members might have missed this one

  • flipper
    flipper

    Figured I'd bump this thread up as it pertains to another threads discussion right now. Maybe newer members might have missed this one

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