mormon experience

by man in black 5 Replies latest jw friends

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  man in black

  Right after my wife and I left the jw religion about two years ago she went ahead and started to study with the mormons.

  I thought that it would be something that would pass after awhile because of the similarities between the two religions,,,, boy was I wrong. She grabbed onto this new cult and just ran with it. She was baptized several months later.

  I have been trying to show her the truth about her new beliefs, but I was just wasting my breath and time doing this. So, I have been trying to be accepting about her new friends, beliefs, and assignments.

  I have attended special Christmas shows, gone to different locations such as carthage to be civil, and accepting to her.

  Well, last night basically just wrecked it all for me.

  She invited two of the "missionary boys" over for dinner, they have been here before and they seem pretty normal.

  As we were finishing dinner, one of them asked for a copy of the book of mormon and started to spout off about how “inspiring, and truthful this book is. I was confused as to what he was doing.

  My 22 year old son was with us and most of the conversation was directed at him. So I bit my tongue and just watched, I know his feelings about this religion (he thinks it is looney) and just watched.

  After listening to the “inspired” presentation and my son’s spot on reply, (he is so civil, and respectful, I was just amazed at his composure) they turned to me and asked, “So MIB, what are your feelings about the bom, and Jesus Christ”?

  The conversation then went basically like this :

  Me: well I do not believe one word of your book.

  Them: why not ? You know that is inspired by God and the prophets ?

  Me: Well for one thing, history does not agree with it, and archeology cannot prove anything that is written in it .

  Them: well you know many stories in the bom have been proven by history and archeology.

  Me: Stories that have been "proven" by other mormons, not by any respectable historians or actual found artifacts.

  Them: well, nothing from the Bible can be proven either. And besides Satan is doing his best to hide the truth of the bom from people today, so it sounds like he is being pretty successful.

  Me: really? What in the world are you talking about.

  Them: well, you have to actually READ the bom to understand what we are talking about. If you would do this you would understand what God really wants people to be doing today.In fact he actually will talk to you and help you come to a greater understand of his purpose using the bom.

  Me: Let me state again, I repect your right to believe what you want, but I do not believe anything in your book,I read the Bible on my own time, I look at creation, I actually experience life outside of the bounds of a manmade religion and yes by doing these things God does talk to me, he has never mentioned to me that your religion is the only way.

  Them: looking at their watches,,, well its getting late, we should be going.

  After they left I was just furious at my wife, how the H#%$ can you sit there and allow these boys to spout off about how true their religion is?

  We were jw’s for about 30 years, didn’t that time show you anything about how cults/religions work?

  I left and took a walk for two hours while I calmed down.

  Any suggestions on how to handle this? I feel like the “unbelieving mate” that was always brought up at witness meetings/conventions. There is no balanced way to deal with this. Either I am a “wicked person” to them, or (will never happen) I cave in and join this religion

  Thanks for listening,

  MIB (who has a massive, killer headache from dealing with this BS).
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  Ding

  Does she know Mormon teaching that Mormon males can progess to godhood and get their own planet?

  Ask her to show you that in the Bible or the bom.

  It isn't there; quite the opposite.

  It's also Mormon teaching that the apostle John and 3 disciples of Nephi never died; they've been alive on earth all these centuries.

  Ask her if she believes this.

  If she says yes, ask her how the true church could have gone out of existence with them around and why Joseph Smith wasn't instructed to join them as the true church?

  Ask her why these men aren't at the LDS headquarters in Salt Lake City.

  What was it that convinced your wife the WTS was BS?

  Mormonism has similar flip-flips in doctrine and contradictory prophecies.

  If you're looking for doctrinal issues, the late Walter Martin did a series of 4 tapes that demolishes the Mormon gospel from a biblical perspective.

  Joan Cetnar's 4witness.org has lots of ideas for witnessing to Mormons as well as JWs from an evangelical perspective.

  Just some ideas for you to consider...
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  moshe

  I have a distant cousin (maybe a 10th or 12th cousin) who is a LDS- I follow their escapades on facebook. Mormons are much more successful than JWs, but just as deluded. One of my cousin's sons just got back from a two year mission in Italy- I PM'd him-" what did you accomplish during those two years?" (crickets chirping) A few days later- " wouldn't serving two years in the Peace Corps have done more for humanity than peddling around on a bicycle for two years?" Still no comment.

  You can't get through to them. Most Mormons are financially well off- so God is blessing them! They don't ask questions, just like JWs.

  Good luck. I fear that she is dug into the Mormon religion for life. Just like a UFO believer- the absence of an alien spaceship or an alien in the flesh only means two things- The Govt is hiding the evidence or we haven't discovered it yet.

  added: Joseph Smith was proven to have lied about being able to translate "old Egyptian" Hieroglyphics, so that should be a enough reason to reject the Book of Mormon, BOM, outright.
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  troubled mind

  MIB that is so depressing to hear . I am so sorry your wife has jumped back into another cult -like group . I can not fathom what I would do if this happened in my family .....at least your son is wise enough to see through the muck and won't be so easily enticed .

  Is it because your wife missed the social or religious aspect in her life after JW's ? What made her lean towards Mormons ? I wonder if it had a familar feel and so she gravitated towards that as a comfort zone .

  Right after I faded the Mormons stopped by here and I let them know I had just left one cult and was not interested in joining another .

  Sometimes I miss the community feeling of belonging to a bigger group and cause ,but as time passes that feeling has lessesed greatly .

  I hope you will find a way to co-exist in peace with this situation .
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  cyberjesus

  dont forget the mormons are a mind control cult as well
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  moshe

  Another one. A Mormon aquaintance was telling me why the LDS religion was the true religion.

  Well, one day he was very depressed and he prayed that night to God to know what the truth was.

  The next day, guess what happened? God sent the Mormon missionaries to his house ( and all his neighbors, too). Praise God- he answered my prayers.

  My comeback to that? "Uhh, so if the Jehovah's Witnesses had come by your house first, you would have become a JW?"

  His jaw went slack and his eyes got all squinty when the little light went off in his head. He never tried to talk up his religion to me again.