Hypocrisy of the study article Jan 30 (November 15 2010 edition) and March 1st 2011

by BluesBrother 8 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • BluesBrother
    BluesBrother

    The study was based on the man Job and his integrity. There are several obvious flaws in their reasoning, but paragraph 6 struck me in the eyes. The subheading "Never resort to devious methods" then :

    "We cannot resort to devious means if we are to be counted among integrity keepers. Job said 'If I have walked with men of untruth and my foot hastens to deception, he [Jehovah] will weigh me with accurate scales and God will get to know my integrity.' Jehovah weighs all men with accurate scales. As in Job's case , God uses his perfect standard of justice to measure our integrity as his dedicated servants"

    Fine words indeed! as befits "God's channel of communication" but do they themselves measure up to it? Do they try to?

    I just picked up the public edition Wt March 1st and read the article "Did Jesus Really Die On A Cross"..(just timely for Easter)....In this article I see the same notoriously inaccurate misquotes and misleading (I believe devious ) statements that we have seen many times before. It can be read here page 18 of March !st

    http://www.jw.org/index.html?option=QrYQCsVrGZNT

    We have the illustration by Lipsius of a man impaled on a stake, but compare this website and numerous other web references to see that this was just one of several alternative cross shapes proposed by Lipsius.

    http://jesusisyhwh.blogspot.com/2008/03/justus-lipsius-de-cruce-liber-tres.html

    (We are not dependent on this man's website..it is common across the net )

    The article on the cross quotes also from the Imperial Bible Dictionary and leaves out the most important parts of the paragraph that show that the writer of the Dictionary was saying just the opposite of what the Wt makes out he was saying ! Please see this link to a discussion of the subject :

    http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/162991/1/Misquotes-from-the-Reasoning-Book-re-Cross-scans-included

    There may be more..but this is enough to see that the Wt Society itself resorts to devious and misleading arguments to support their beliefs..No doubt the writer of the March 1st article just cut & pasted from previous Wt publications without deliberately misrepresenting Lipsius or The Imperial Bible Dictionary, but his actions just perpetuate the Watchtower lies.

    Perhaps the WTS should recall their own words in par 7 of Sunday's study "It is good to remember that God can look into our very depths "testing out heart and kidneys " to determine whether we are genuine integrity keepers.

    They have often quoted Prov. 6. 16 -19..of the things Jehovah does hate and are detestable to his soul " a false tongue", and "a false witness that launches forth lies"

  • tec
    tec

    Isn't theocratic warfare deceptive? There's a bit of a double standard there as well.

    Tammy

  • undercover
    undercover

    "We cannot resort to devious means if we are to be counted among integrity keepers. Job said 'If I have walked with men of untruth and my foot hastens to deception, he [Jehovah] will weigh me with accurate scales and God will get to know my integrity.' Jehovah weighs all men with accurate scales. As in Job's case , God uses his perfect standard of justice to measure our integrity as his dedicated servants"

    The UN/NGO scandal comes to mind as well...

    Good write-up and references, BB

  • brotherdan
    brotherdan

    Theocratic warfare can allow you to be deceptive by saying that you should not be deceptive, thus causing others to think that you are not being deceptive when you are actually being deceptive.

  • dgp
    dgp

    Brother Dan,

  • dgp
    dgp

    Has anyone ever asked an elder, overseeer, or maybe even a Governing Body member HOW THE HELL THAT WOULD BE RELEVANT? Say he died on a cross, or on a stake, or fried in a pan. If Jesus is said to have died for your sins, WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES THAT MAKE WHAT SHAPE OF WOODEN THING HE DIED ON?

  • pirata
  • Evidently Apostate
    Evidently Apostate

    lets see know,

    1. using secular research out of context

    2. changing doctrine to hide past errors

    3. resorting to mind control tactics to retain and recruit membership

    4. blaming members for hoping in failed predictions

    5. lying i mean using theocratic warfare to obsolve the organization of culpability

    6. refusing to adjust old light in order to prevent needless death

    quoting out of context seems petty compared to thier more devious sins. nice thread BB

  • dogon
    dogon

    The cross thing is a way of differentiating them selfs from other Christian religions. They are like the small business that no one notices so they have to do something to stand out. Going out in the field service is another way that has this purpose and the added benefit of finding people that are depressed and lonely to sweep into the cult. The deception part is funny how they have deceived many with the lies of the end times and being gods channel of communication on earth. Not to mention that the bible itself is a book of bull shit based on the rantings of goat herders.

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