The cold sterility of Paradise....paradise indeed!

by Terry 8 Replies latest jw friends

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  Terry

  Do we ever think about what we don't think about? Paradise.

  Was it really?

  Adam and Eve never were held by a mother, cuddled and sung to with lullabyes nor nursed and coddled with tenderness and familial embrace.

  They never learned to toddle surrounded by brothers, sisters, aunts and uncles and grandparents cheering them on.

  Adam and Eve were never in a neighborhood with other kids forming friendship bonds for life and exchanging dreams and hopes for a future they were building in their community.

  Adam and Eve didn't learn nursery rhymes or sit in their Daddy's lap and read bedtime stories or get tucked in and kissed goodnight.

  Adam woke up naked and stranded among animals with no companion and only invisible voices directing him.

  Like a blind man in social darkness completely deprived of human touch.

  He did not grow up among little girls or lovely teens or older women in a natural life cycle of beauty and age.

  He never saw his Mommy kiss his Daddy.

  What love might mean between people was never modeled in front of his eyes.

  He did not select a choice of mates among many nor enjoy the attention of those vying for his notice.

  Adam was surgically anesthetized and his own body rummaged for spare parts.

  He awoke to the only human he'd ever seen: Eve.

  What being a man or women was as infant, toddler, teen, young adult and such was a darkness of nothing to their experience.

  They were strangers.

  How is this being HUMAN at all?

  Is it any wonder their first and most important choices were dysfunctional?

  I mean: really?
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  cyberjesus

  Adam and Eve were feral children.
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  Terry

  Children, indeed!

  What adult would hold children inexperienced, naive and gullible accountable for the ambition of being like their father?

  Then, condemn all such offspring of their issue to wallow in miserable ignorance and fallible guesswork?

  We don't allow children to sign contracts because they don't go beyond their own natural impulses.
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  Yan Bibiyan

  A sobering perspective, Terry....

  ..but, they didn't NEED all this, they were perfect after all.

  Or, were they?
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  Terry

  I don't think we really spend much brain-time on defining exactly what it is we mean by the word: perfect.

  A knife is "perfect" for cutting our meat but that same knife is lousy for eating our peas.

  The purpose is the measure.

  From God's standpoint a "perfect" human would be capable of worship without rebellion. No need would arise for impudence, blasphemy or self-destructive behavior.

  EXCEPT......

  as the Garden of Eden story wants to tell us: God decided to withold something from man that was desirable and necessary. So much so, man would risk his own existence to obtain it.

  See anything "perfect" in setting up a situation in which man loses so absolutely and immediately?

  Going back to our knife analogy...

  A dull knife is not perfect for cutting meat.

  A dull knife lacks the keen edge which allows the cutting of meat with minimum effort.

  A human lacking that "edge" of "being like God knowing good and bad" is driven to obtain that missing quality of fulfilling his own purpose.

  God, if we are to believe this narrative, gave humans a hunger for meat they could not cut into, so to speak.

  It is a conditional set up.

  We can teach a hungry dog to sit next to a pile of meat drooling without eating until the command is given: "Eat".

  But, a man with the ability to satisfy his own cravings for knowlege cannot be reduced to dog status so easily....as God discovered.

  Man without is different from man "with" the keen edge of knowledge.
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  cyberjesus

  They lacked social skills learned in a family. We are socialize creatures. Most of our behavior is learned through socialization and interactions with others... what was their social circle? some elephants, bonobo monkeys, hyenas maybe some bulls....

  The more you think about it the more amazed I get i never thought about it.
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  Yan Bibiyan

  My "perfect" comment above is tongue-in-cheek, should that have not been apparent.....
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  strymeckirules

  the "First Gospel of Adam and Eve" and the "Second Gospel of Adam and Eve" clear up alot of questions you pose.

  they were left out of the bible so that you'd be confused and frusterated and want to walk away from god...

  if the bible confuses you, keep researching ancient texts.
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  Terry

  The problem with "texts" is there is no chain-of-custody.

  There is no "provenance" which proves authenticity.

  Anybody at any time who translates or copies is FREE TO EMBELLISH or "clarify" by changing the meaning.

  It isn't done maliciously. It is done to make things CLEARER. However, this is mere interpretation according to the current opinion.

  All texts of scripture are odious frauds.

  Religion is pretending they are divine and inerrant in substance.

  Gullibility is believing there are authorities who actually KNOW something.