The Dubs weakest link!

by moman 7 Replies latest jw friends

  • moman
    moman

    We spend lots of energy exposing the many false-hoods of the WT Soc., with varing degrees of success. In my opinion their lack of patriotism is their Achilies heel!

    How many Americans are aware of their refusal to join the military?
    How many Dubs do business with the public in sales etc. & keep this secret? Just imagine someone with a son in the military helping to support a Dub as one of their customers, what would they think?
    They live safe & secure enjoying freedom tax free to spread their lies. They shun good people,as someones loved one is put in harms way,protecting their profits!

    I say we coninstrate here!

    DIE BORG DIE!

  • RedhorseWoman
    RedhorseWoman

    Actually, it's been my experience that many people admire the JWs for their presumably strong neutral stance with regard to any governments.

    What they don't realize is how gleeful the JWs get when various tragedies occur. That one tends to strike a chord.

  • DakotaRed
    DakotaRed

    Since I am a veteran, I feel the need to chime in here. When I was younger and serving in Vietnam and even a while after, any who refused to serve really pissed me off. However, since I have gotten older and hopefully wiser, I can now see that if it is a persons real and actual conscience, then they should stick by it. One of the things all veterans have fought for is other peoples freedoms, regardless of whether we agree or not.

    On the other hand, JWs telling me I was stupid for serving and how wrong and ridiculous wars and military service are, then glorifying that military in one of their publications for rescuing and freeing JWs and others from concentration camps, gives me a bitter taste.

    Personally, I do advocate young men doing service for their countries, although not necessarily military, if it goes against their conscience. Cowardice is not a good excuse for refusal, though.

    Maybe Dubs should be constricted to help out in VA hospitals or even military hospitals and see what others have paid for their freedoms. How could that possibly go against their conscience?

    But, in my opinion, to say their stance is their weakest link, is folly. Just like any trying to whip up patriotic fervor against them for it. That is not what we fought for.

    As I see it, they are their own weakest link. The average JW can't explain why they believe as they do, they depend on the Watchtower instead of researching and learning for themselves. Unfortuantely, every other religion I can think of does it the same way.

    Once again, though, maybe instead of trying to use their stance against them, use it with them. Encourage the governments, if a draft ever comes back, to force them to help care for wounded soldiers and veterans. Maybe some will see what their freedom cost!

    If God's Spirit is filling a Kingdom Hall, how is it that Satan can manuever the ones within that Kingdom Hall at the same time?

  • Carmel
    Carmel

    Hey red,

    My religion sure doesn't depend upon what the Watchtower says!

    carmel

  • rem
    rem

    I think the Witnesses went through this during the war years. Remember the tar and feathering experiences? I don't think persecution really phases them, or wakes them up. Of course, it's a different generation and the cause today does not seem to be as urgent as it did in those days, so who knows how American Witnesses would react now days to this type of persecution. Perhaps they could lose some funding from various organizations, including the local governments if this was exposed more fully.

    rem

    "We all do no end of feeling, and we mistake it for thinking." - Mark Twain
  • DakotaRed
    DakotaRed
    My religion sure doesn't depend upon what the Watchtower says!

    carmel

    Well, my religion doesn't depend on what any religion says. Rutherford was right, religion is a snare and a racket. He just forgot to include his own!

    If God's Spirit is filling a Kingdom Hall, how is it that Satan can manuever the ones within that Kingdom Hall at the same time?

  • plmkrzy
    plmkrzy

    I don't know this can be a real explosive topic.
    I think I would agree with a good portion of Dakotas
    view on the subject but I never had to face going
    off to war. I do remember the draft and a very very
    good friend of my family was a JW and did refuse to
    go and was sent to prison and spent 8 years behind
    bars. All he had to do in order to get pardon'd was
    go into the service. A lot of people around us I
    remember expressing nothing but pride that he was
    in prison where he belong'd. And I remember how I
    hated that he was being punished for not wanting
    to go to someone else's Country he had no beef with
    and kill people he didn't know for something no one
    was sure of. The guy was hated by everyone but he
    did the time in prison no body went for him. Because
    of his belief's and only because of his belief's he
    was beaten and sodamized in prison for 8 years.
    There are all kinds of ways to look at everything.
    It wasn't till years later after the damage was done
    that anyone recognized how Not a coward he was.
    My older brother ran off as soon as he was old enough
    and inlisted in the USMC. I was scared for him and at
    the same time I was happy he was there instead of prison.

    Most of the world are pretty aware of the JWs stand
    on war. That use to be the big issue at one time.
    It use to be the only issue at one time. It passed.
    plm

  • plmkrzy
    plmkrzy

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    "We all do no end of feeling, and we mistake it for thinking." - Mark Twain
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