OSHA Safety Regulations: Does the WT look the other way?

by Alfred 7 Replies latest jw experiences

  • Alfred
    Alfred

    I've been on a couple of KH remodels (the last one over 2 years ago)... both remodels took about 2 months to complete... in both cases I pointed out numerous safety hazards and OSHA violations to the site coordinator (not petty nonsense but actual safety hazards). Just to give a few examples...there were stripped extension cords everywhere, poorly protected temporary wiring, trip hazards, unlabeled cans containing either hazmat or flammable liquid, hazardous liquid spills that were cleaned up with rags and then tossed in the trash, the list goes on and on... I can tell you that it really got out of control (no exageration)... in both cases I was told not to worry about it because we would be done with the remodel fairly soon and Jehovah always looks after his people. What I didn't get is that they would have these 5-10 minute "safety talks" before starting the work day, yet we would be constantly surrounded by safety hazards all day long.

    So my question is... Have you ever been on a KH new construction or remodel and observed any OSHA safety violations? Did the site coordinator do anything about it? (I'm just trying to determine if this was/is just a "regional" thing or a widespread problem)... I look forward to your experiences... thanks!

  • Alfred
    Alfred

    (BTW... I just realized I posted under the wrong topic section... sorry...)

  • WhatWasIThinking
    WhatWasIThinking

    They were too busy trying to find scriptures that talked about the importance of safety or telling people with logos on their clothing to turn it inside out or cover it up to worry about any real safety. We constantly had trip hazards due to poorly laid out extension cords, people constantly taking off their hard hats or safety glasses because it was "too hot," frayed cords, people on ladders trying to move them without getting off while having tools on top, spilled substances cleaned up and all thrown in the same trash, people texting while working, and just generally inexperienced people. I'm surprised we never had a serious injury with all of the untrained people using power tools and sharp objects without supervision.

  • CuriousButterfly
    CuriousButterfly

    I have heard OSHA is very involved in the southwest KH builds. They do not allow them to serve food from witnesses but it all has to be prepared/cooked in approved trailers/buildings.

  • WTWizard
    WTWizard

    I actually have better safety practices using a 6 foot step ladder to decorate for Christmas. They need to learn how to use a step ladder safely--and, if they are going to be doing a lot of work on one, they need to get one that is the proper height. Fine to step on the next-to-top step if all you are doing is putting up a few light weight Christmas ornaments. But, if you are using heavy tools doing heavy work, doing that could be very dangerous. And, moving the ladder while someone is on it is the epitome of stupidity--next to using ladders in poor condition, texting while working on a step ladder, or using an undersized extension ladder on the roof (you can knock the ladder down, fall, split your head open, and die).

    They also need to worry about bad extension cords. It only takes one to short out and cause a fire or electrocute someone, and it is going to be in the evening paper. "Six die in Kingdumb Hell fire. The fire was started with a bad extension cord." That sure is going to look good for the local territory when the witlesses boast about excellent safety practices. I myself got a proper extension cord--a 13 amp cord for decorating for Christmas, using less than 1 amp of LED lights indoors--it is going to be embarrassing when an apostate doing Satan's work is practicing higher safety standards than God's people doing God's work.

    I don't even use hazardous materials that could be spilled. Why are they being spilled in the first place? They need to make sure such materials are not placed where they can be tripped on or knocked down easily. It only takes a small spark from a bad extension cord near paint thinner to start a nice little fire that will make the 6:00 news. Not to mention all the mess that people can trip on--heavy construction requires heavy safety.

    And, the quality of equipment needs improvement. I wonder if they even know about classes of ladders. Type 3 ladders are light duty, which is fine if you are only reaching to put vitamins in a high cabinet or hanging a picture. A Type 2 ladder is for general duty--used for decorating a Christmas tree indoors, hanging Christmas lights, painting walls and ceilings, cleaning high places (ceiling fans, etc.), and washing your windows. A Type 1 ladder is for general maintenance--washing windows, installing fixtures on the ceiling, general carpentry work, and heavy landscaping. (Which most witlesses should know about--a Type 1 ladder is what they should be using for their window washing work and general cleaning). A Type 1A ladder is for heavy construction, and that is what they should use for those Kingdumb Hell projects (and what I use for Christmas decorating, because I prefer something that is going to be durable). A Type 1AA ladder is a special duty ladder, meant for very heavy work and is probably not needed except for installing very heavy items.

  • Mad Sweeney
    Mad Sweeney

    What is OSHA's jurisdiction compared to a local or state building ordinances? Does it depend on the size/scope of the project? The number of workers? Something else?

  • DesirousOfChange
    DesirousOfChange

    What is OSHA's jurisdiction compared to a local or state building ordinances? Does it depend on the size/scope of the project? The number of workers? Something else?

    OSHA actually represents employees in the work force where there is interstate commerce. Since all business is involved in interstate commerce (all business buy products produced outside their own state), OSHA has authority over all business'es employees.

    But, since most workers at QuickBuilds or any kind of remodel are volunteers, I doubt OSHA can claim any authority. I'm not sure how that would work with the Bethel workforce. Are they "volunteers" as well?

  • CoonDawg
    CoonDawg

    The quickbuilds I went on were early on, before there were any official RBCs and the like. It was kind of wild west in the beginning. I was 14 and I was cutting lumber with a radial arm saw. Talk about a no-no. Anyone who wanted to could be on site - no hardhats, no nothing. The last one I went on was much later - about 1989 or 90, most of the safety stuff was still waaaaay out the window. I couldn't believe all the shenannigans. I can promise, I wouldn't want be the cong. that had to buy that building. Corners were cut everywhere. It was shoddily built. I would think that not only OSHA regs would have to be observed, but that local inspectors could have a say in a great deal of what goes on.

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