My problem....

LDH

OK guys I have a problem and I can use your input.

I've been trying to drop little hints about the 'troof' for a year and a half now.

Unfortunately I think I have a late-in-life case of ADHD because I can't stay focused on one topic.[>:(]

I would LIKE to discuss one topic rationally with my father (mother doesn't talk to me) but somehow I end up getting all emotional and wanting to shout "Are you F-ING blind? That religion is a SCAM and you have wasted 35 YEARS of your life!"

The thing is, my sister has been a little more successful. She is DA'd over gambling several years ago. Just now she realizes it is not the truth.

She had a conversation with my dad this weekend about birthdays in which he admitted 'taking a loved one out to dinner to 'commemorate' their birthday is ok to do but the fanfare is all about idolatry blah blah blah.'

So my sister says, "So it's ok to go to Bennigan's for dinner but THE SECOND they bring you a cupcake with a candle on it Jehovah doesn't like it?"

Of course he was quiet after that.

Am I just too emotional about the whole thing?!?!?

I WANT THEM OUT!!!!!!

ISP

Hi there, Lisa

I guess you have said most stuff already to your folks and however you say it...your parents are probably typical JWs....impervious to reasoning and argument etc. They will have you down as 'weak' and dismiss a lot of what you say.

I think you have to be around to pick up the pieces, if and when they fall. In the meantime, I would try to have a good relationship without antagonism, if possible, and show them you are really happy. Their time may well come and at that time what you have been saying will come into focus. So its a matter of being patient IMO.

ISP

DakotaRed

Hi Lisa;

Unfortunately, you cannot control what another thinks or believes. No matter how we want to awaken them, they have to see the light for themselves. Parents especially have a hard time adjusting to their kids knowing something better than they do. Then too, the sudden shock of all their beliefs being challenged can be too much to handle at one time.

Do a web search for Restoration Light Bible Studies. That is an American Bible Student site who share many theological beliefs with the JWs, but don't practice the doctrinal issues. Of course, they are the ones that broke away when Rutherford stole the society. They have many excellent articles about JW practices that are very well researched, especially on shunning, birthdays and such. Maybe seeing what they say won't be too much of a shock to your parents and they will see the light. But, ultimately, they will have to see it for themselves. All you can do is show them what you have discovered.

Lew

Here should be alink to their index site. http://reslight.addr.com/indexrl.html

If God's Spirit is filling a Kingdom Hall, how is it that Satan can manuever the ones within that Kingdom Hall at the same time?

LDH

Thanks for NOTHING, guys! [8>]

I need to figure out how to stay on one subject and drill them over and over. Instead of getting so PO'd and jumping around.

Has anyone figured this one out?

ISP, thanks Dude. And Dakota, if I didn't say it before: Yer a hoot and welcome to the board.

Lisa

larc

Lisa,

Pretend that you are at their door and you are there to give a simple message in a calm friendly fashion. Remember? You used to do that.

SYN

Practise Zen meditation or something...I dunno. There are usually two ways to tackle problems like this: let them slide (permanently...what's out of sight is out of mind, people tend to have very short memories), or just sorta take the bull by the horns.

If the other person is making you angry, then remember that THEY are controlling YOU. You don't want to allow that.

"I see no good reasons why the views given in this volume should shock the religious sensibilities of anyone." -- Charles Darwin, The Origin Of Species, 1869.

Julie

Hi LDH--

I sympathize with your situation as I tend to be a bit, er, emotional, on topics I feel passionately about. I have some excellent advice for you that has worked for me repeatedly and it is very brief.

Sedatives.

Regards,
Julie

waiting

LOL Lisa!

Am I just too emotional about the whole thing?!?!? - lisa

Yes................

And there are solid reasons for that - you love them. And no one can irritate another like family. Lord, I could last 2 hours with my mother before I wanted to strangle her - in a loving way, of course.

Larc had a good suggestion - play like you're talking to someone you want IN the org. when you were IN. My god, our jw patience is legendary!

And Julie was right - sedatives work well too..........

waiting

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